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Jeep CEO talks Patriot replacement

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#28 · (Edited)
I wish Jeep would keep the boxy classic suv look. O well, time moves on, and just like any company; they dont care about keeping it "boxy", they care about profits and they feel the new styling will keep making better profits

that said, numbers tell the truth and the patriot has been crushing sales this past month-up 40% dont understand why they wanna cease production myself

Just in time for easter:wow:
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lolz lets all jump on the bandwagon to be noticed :pepper: maybe Jeep needs to replace their CEO, what do you think everyone?

I find this to be pretty disappointing, myself, and I assume a large population of Jeep owners, whether it be old Cherokee, Wrangler or Patriot, love and appreciate the square utilitarian look of our Jeeps. The argument about changing all of that for regulation reasons is complete BS, hence the Wrangler. Also with every SUV being created and designed these days looking like a hunch back squinting while limbo dancing, how can they call that progressive, it will look like ever other run of the mill SUV/Crossover. Just my two cents, but when I drive out to the bush, I want a vehicle that looks and feels like it belongs there, and didn't get lost on my way to my underwater basket weaving class. Cheers!
Im with you I feel they could keep the square utilitarian look of our Jeeps, because they abosultely is a demand for them. why do Patriot sales keep jumping?

Maybe thats what the progressive patriot replacement will look like?

looks like it cost though just by the appearance .

I was in the market for a great looking, economical, suv with a lower price than most others. I know its cliche, the patriot has everything I desire, looks, suv-like, nice gas mileage, and ive gotten used to the cvt and actually like it better than all my previous 6 speeds, bc I can take my foot off the gas and cruise on up to a stop light. I say we all got in on a very great deal with the patriot.

My neighbor and I went to a baseball game last week, and its the first time he rode in it, he called it a car onetime lol, but he complimented it and said this is nice
 
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It's not, though if the ComPatriot looks like all of those then it will be average.

That said, the KL Cherokee with its radical styling sold more units last year then either the KJ or KK Liberty's ever did in a year. It's hard to argue boxy when faced with that statistic. Plus, rounded styling has significant impacts on fuel economy. Even things like the shape of the roof rack can impact fuel efficiency. And given gov't regulations, Jeep has no choice but to improve there. Worse then that, the overall fuel efficiency requiremets FCA has to meet mean they need every mpg they can get from their SUV's because they still aren't doing all that well on cars.

I'm not sure where that puts the new vehicle, though. Conventional wisdom was that it could very well continue the second gen Compass idea and be a smaller version of the Grand Cherokee, but that hardly seems to fit Manley's comments. And a smaller version of the Cherokee styling would be hardly noticeable since the ComPatriot won't be all that much smaller. So who knows at this point. I guess it could end up looking like a wagon or crossover, though. Like a bigger Subaru Crosstrek or something.
 
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However, he intimated that the new Jeep's look will be a big change from the Patriot and Compass.
 
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I find this to be pretty disappointing, myself, and I assume a large population of Jeep owners, whether it be old Cherokee, Wrangler or Patriot, love and appreciate the square utilitarian look of our Jeeps. The argument about changing all of that for regulation reasons is complete BS, hence the Wrangler. Also with every SUV being created and designed these days looking like a hunch back squinting while limbo dancing, how can they call that progressive, it will look like ever other run of the mill SUV/Crossover. Just my two cents, but when I drive out to the bush, I want a vehicle that looks and feels like it belongs there, and didn't get lost on my way to my underwater basket weaving class. Cheers!
 
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I assume a large population of Jeep owners, whether it be old Cherokee, Wrangler or Patriot, love and appreciate the square utilitarian look of our Jeeps.

Also with every SUV being created and designed these days looking like a hunch back squinting while limbo dancing, how can they call that progressive, it will look like ever other run of the mill SUV/Crossover.
Bingo.

Well said.....

I bought my 2015 because I was afraid there would be no more Patriots. I hate the look of the Cherokar. It looks like one of those Fords.
 
#14 ·
Side note to my last: All the Patriot needs is a new engine option with beefier suspension and gearings, plus a little more mod friendly and BAM! all those Jeep fanatics that loved their old Cherokees now have a viable option.
 
#16 ·
well.... yes and no. The cherokee was rwd. people love them now because you can lift them really high, and they have a floor-mounted transfer case. we already lifted the pat as much as it can go, and its only a matter of time before RRO quits making the lift for them. you can only do so much with a FWD priority vehicle when it comes to offroad.
 
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@ moparnumber1, agreed, another aspect that could be changed to appeal to the more offroad inclined crowd, since they have 3 other vehicles in the line up for the casuals.

@ Murphy Slaw, I hear ya, I have loved my Patriot since I got it in 2011 and now that the old lady has a nice government job, I told her I would sell her my Jeep, this way I can get a new one, which honestly will either be another Patriot or a fairly stock Wrangler.
 
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Well, I've seen a Renegade and its not bad looking, just overpriced. My guess is the price will crash once the novelty is past, as the price came down on the PT Cruisers. Remember there were additional dealer mark-ups on those (disguised as "Inventory Cost" or some such).

If the Compatriot (aren't you glad we didn't do the contraction starting with the Patriot?) gets replaced it will have to be the biggest hit in automotive history to make up for the fantastic sales figures the Patriot has been achieving. Killing off a winner to make room for a loser will rank up there with the Vega and the Edsel.
 
#22 ·
This is what I'm banking on for aftermarket support. Once the factory kills it, companies will be more willing to make stuff for it. Hopefully a way to fit the Mitsubishi Outlander V6 in, which I'm starting to see as a good possibility. Then along could come longer axles, control arms and the rest of that fun stuff so maybe we could go up to some 33's. Maybe I'm dreaming but hopefully it becomes reality.
 
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This is all older stuff, one is a logo for the Jeep Patriot Hellas? club I think. The weird looking compass was actually before the top one I believe(http://www.allpar.com/cars/concepts/jeep.html). The top one was the 2nd Jeepster which was a concept before the New Patriot redesign and renegade. Gladiator looks much cooler these days. Jeep came buy the Michigan Tech campus a few years back to show everything off:


Air, fuel and spare in the bed

Nice atlas transfer cases:drool:

Kph

Lockers f/r of course


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And my favorite:
THE REAL RENEGADE 6.4L

YUP!
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Stick shift!:Racing:


And a Jeep-mog?


Fancy interior...


And of course they put an AT-AT sticker on the back window:notworthy:
 
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None of those concepts seem very likely. About the best we can hope for is that Jeep decides that that Cherokee is meeting the demand that the Compass was designed for (i.e. soccer mom SUV) and decides to make the replacement for the market the Patriot was designed for, the traditional utilitarian compact vehicle. Those concepts are all too sporty and small, not utilitarian.

The Gladiator is probably not coming anytime soon. The US manufacturers are not convinced that the US market really wants a mid-size pickup and the initial sales of the new Colorado/Canyon from GM are reinforcing that idea. Jeep being part of the bigger Chrysler group means a full sized Jeep pickup would also have to be approved since it would be competing with the Ram truck division of the company.