You basicly said it, they've already been proven not to work, instead of a maybe work on some cars and not others, I've never seen them do anything of worth from my browsing, so no reason to dump the money into Somthing that's been proven not to work, for example when Tyler put money into a locking diff, it's because no one tried it yet, so it was a dark cave where we had no idea the outcome hope that helps

 

Someone may have tried it, but didn't post it.

About the only thing I've seen that works at all is this:

http://www.phantomsuperchargers.com/

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39719&page=397

 

Why waste your money on that when you can waste it on something else?

 

Gotta love the Aussies !

 

I was just curious because there are certain members on here who swear that their K&N air intake/filters add power to the Patriot...

 

Well it has.............and i'm not talking about HP gains, I bog down less while offroading when the BLD's kick in, Sask_Riot also noticed the same when he got his K&N Intake installed, the fuel economy increase is also nice.

How many FDII's let alone heavily modified ones can get that fuel economy(Highway), it doesn't just magically happen

So there is a difference, if you don't believe it doesn't happen that's fine you don't have to install one

I"m quite happy with my intake/exhaust combination, I was looking for real world increases and I found them.

 

I think that the e supercharger in theory can work but the problem is that the amount of batteries needed to get the power needed to get noticeable power to the electric motors is offset by the weight gain. However based on your a two power requirements for your stereo, you might be able to pull it off.

 

placebo, if nothing else. if your own mind is convinced then what else do you need.

 

There is a fully working electric supercharger, that runs at like 7psi, and only lasts 15 seconds due to immense power demand. its rather expensive, but it's great if you only need it for passing on the highway, or street racing, not for towing demands and you dont have to mess with really anything in your engine because it doesn't last long. I'll try to dig it up...

 

Ah yes, the snake oil of the automotive intake system. Keep looking folks, these have been around for a long time and for the entire time they have been around have been proven as expensive paperweights. Buy into this idea ..... well I have some ocean front property to sell you in Wisconsin

 

I thought MCM put 2 leaf blowers on a mini car and it did improve power and MPG a tad. They obviously look silly but it's the same basis as a super charger but using electric power instead. Way more efficient to use the mechanical power straight off the crank than to convert to electricity and then back to mechanical....speaking of which.

Why hasn't anyone tried making a small super charger for our engines!?!? I'd pay someone to help get that going! Might be easier than turbo?

 

Procharger. Make a bracket and mount it above the power steering pump.

 

I think this is what sask_riot was talking about:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39719

Looks interesting but $1850 seems like a bit too much, maybe the price will come down by the time we all get new vehicles...LOL

 

I think for $X you can get an old turbo housing from a junk yard. Then couple it with a good 24 volt motor from a supplier, two battery packs (aka dump packs) and a starter battery that all fit nicely in the stock tray, some wiring and a switch and the only variable left is the ESC (electronic speed controller) which im sure can be sourced also. Way less than 1850. Throw in some couplers for the turbo to intake housing, blah blah... I can build this.

 

There is a simple formula to remember when it comes to performance mods on your car:
HP = A lot of money.

You can break this formula down to the turbocharger/supercharger specific formula:
Boost = A lot of money.

Anything else is wasting your money. Fans dont compress the air.

 

Correct, ordinary fans don't. Almost $2k is a lot of money...

Specially designed turbines do. It's literally the same as a mechanical super charger but it uses a brushless motor(which are very powerful and efficient these days) to spin the turbine at 50,000RPM which creates boost.

I'm surprised they haven't tried using some lightweight Li-Po batteries(much higher current available with smaller and lighter weight cells).

 

The Thomas Knight electric supercharger is the real deal. They gained like 100hp on an old Avenger 3.0. Its only in short bursts, but it runs off its own battery banks, not your alternator. Its like nitrous, but without yhe $45 tank refills every week or so.

 

 

I was waiting for the Roadkill Monza haha

 

2k is a lot of money, but still less than the turbo kit or a Procharger. Some people have even been able to add a Phantom successfully without tuning, though it would probably work better if tuned.

Using a little different approach, Volvo claims to have a 2.0L that makes 450HP by using two turbochargers plumbed into the engine’s intake system that are driven from air pressure generated by an electric motor powered turbo, instead of using exhaust gases. Pretty cool if it can be made to work reliably.

http://autoweek.com/article/car-news/volvos-new-electric-supercharger-explained

 

Ah the electric motor to offset the turbo lag. Interesting idea.

 

I say turbo it and keep it 5psi. Bigger fuel pump, bigger injectors, **** maybe 5th injector to keep it old-school Instead of trying to source a manifold, just install the turbo on the downpipe. there's probably room for a hose to fit down there too. I saw a build a while ago where a guy put a turbo on the back of his miata to keep it cool. ran the air intake hose all the way back up front lol

5psi wont be a whole bunch, but the cvt should be able to handle it.