Need some help identifying an issue with my 2016 Jeep Patriot Sport. When put in gear it judders really bad and feels like it doesn’t want to take off like very slow acceleration than it shakes.
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Need some help identifying an issue with my 2016 Jeep Patriot Sport. When put in gear it judders really bad and feels like it doesn’t want to take off like very slow acceleration than it shakes.
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Hi, welcome to the forums.
If it has the CVT, the transmission may be on it's way out.
Judder / shudder on take off and limp mode / slow speed is a common problem often caused by scoring of the valves and valve bores due to dirty fluid contaminated with metal bits. The fluid and both filters should be changed every 30-50k miles rather than 120k as the service manual states.
If the fluid and filters haven't been changed in the last 50k miles you can try doing that and see if it helps. More info on that here:
www.jeeppatriot.com
Otherwise, you may need to take it to a transmission shop that knows CVTs for a diagnostic.
If you're not sure which transmission it has, you can use the VIN to get a factory build sheet that will tell you. Copy the link below into your browser and add the VIN to the end.
http://www.jeep.com/webselfservice/BuildSheetServlet?vin=
If it has the CVT, the transmission may be on it's way out.
Judder / shudder on take off and limp mode / slow speed is a common problem often caused by scoring of the valves and valve bores due to dirty fluid contaminated with metal bits. The fluid and both filters should be changed every 30-50k miles rather than 120k as the service manual states.
If the fluid and filters haven't been changed in the last 50k miles you can try doing that and see if it helps. More info on that here:
CVT updated pan, dip stick and cooler links please
Been done to death but I cant find all info with links etc to know i'm on right track. Want to service the CVT (replace filters and fluid) also have seen this 4 ports CVT Transmission Oil Cooler, 2 for Engine Coolant 2 for CVT Fluid. 2 pipes for the inlet/outlet of coolant 2 pipes for the...
www.jeeppatriot.com
Otherwise, you may need to take it to a transmission shop that knows CVTs for a diagnostic.
If you're not sure which transmission it has, you can use the VIN to get a factory build sheet that will tell you. Copy the link below into your browser and add the VIN to the end.
http://www.jeep.com/webselfservice/BuildSheetServlet?vin=
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It’s the CVT. I changed the fluid today and both filters. I don’t think it’s ever been changed before. Has 149,000 MilesHi, welcome to the forums.
If it has the CVT, the transmission may be on it's way out.
Judder / shudder on take off and limp mode / slow speed is a common problem often caused by scoring of the valves and valve bores due to dirty fluid contaminated with metal bits. The fluid and both filters should be changed every 30-50k miles rather than 120k as the service manual states.
If the fluid and filters haven't been changed in the last 50k miles you can try doing that and see if it helps. More info on that here:
CVT updated pan, dip stick and cooler links please
Been done to death but I cant find all info with links etc to know i'm on right track. Want to service the CVT (replace filters and fluid) also have seen this 4 ports CVT Transmission Oil Cooler, 2 for Engine Coolant 2 for CVT Fluid. 2 pipes for the inlet/outlet of coolant 2 pipes for the...
Otherwise, you may need to take it to a transmission shop that knows CVTs for a diagnostic.
If you're not sure which transmission it has, you can use the VIN to get a factory build sheet that will tell you. Copy the link below into your browser and add the VIN to the end.
http://www.jeep.com/webselfservice/BuildSheetServlet?vin=
Didn’t see any metal partials in the pan atleast not anything shiny but there was a lot of build up on the magnets that looks liked fibers.
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Then it may be a problem with scoring of the pump flow control valve. Repair requires removal and disassembly of the transmission.
You may want to get a diagnostic done, or if you have an android device you can try to check the pressures yourself using a copy of CVTz50 - CVT diagnostics with ELM327 and a obd adapter.
Pressure info here:
CVT Success: In-Vehicle Isolation of Common Problems
All transmission models have unique problems that are common to that model; Jatco CVT units are no exception. Technicians are facing an uphill battle when it co
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Do I have to purchase this softwareThen it may be a problem with scoring of the pump flow control valve. Repair requires removal and disassembly of the transmission.
You may want to get a diagnostic done, or if you have an android device you can try to check the pressures yourself using a copy of CVTz50 - CVT diagnostics with ELM327 and a obd adapter.
Pressure info here:
CVT Success: In-Vehicle Isolation of Common Problems
All transmission models have unique problems that are common to that model; Jatco CVT units are no exception. Technicians are facing an uphill battle when it cowww.sonnax.com
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If you're asking if there's a charge for it, yes, it costs about $5.
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What do you think ?
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Man that makes my heart sink
I was hoping CV axels or something
But if it is tranny can I just pull and swap it with another
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The problem is finding a used transmission that doesn't have a similar issue, or is almost ready to.
Maybe if you can find a low mileage unit (less than 40k) in a Patriot or Compass that was totaled in a rear end or side collision that wouldn't have affected the transmission in any way.
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That is the only thing. I’m not even sure where to start
I was hoping for something simple that I could do like I did changing the fluid and filter
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The loud noise I found coming from the brakes. This is just so odd
I hope you find a cheaper way out of this. However, if in fact the transmission is dying, I recommend skipping the junkyard route and going with a factory rebuilt transmission installed by a dealer, or maybe by a knowledgeable transmission shop. From what I've seen, most tranny shops shy away from CVTs because of the bad reputation. Sad part is, the reputation is undeserved -- it was the owners manual that recommended service intervals that were far too liberal, hence may CVTs failed prematurely.
If you otherwise love your Patriot, spend the bucks on a good replacement and enjoy your vehicle for many more happy miles. Quite frankly, I prefer my Patriot over anything else on the market today (and I also own a 2nd Gen Compass and a '21 Wrangler).
On the other hand, if you don't care for your Patriot, maybe donate it for a tax deduction or sell it to a DIYer or someone who has the time and money get the work done. I've donated two of my past vehicles to a charity that gets parts at cost and repairs them with donated labor, then gives the car to someone in need.
Putting my money where my mouth is, I recently put out the bucks for a new 5-spd at a Jeep dealer. Glad I did, because when it gave me trouble my dealer again replaced the transmission and clutch at no charge. While my Patriot has given me very few problems, at 200,000 miles I do expect some problems. I neither live in a fantasy, nor am I leading a charmed life: based on previous experience I think my Patriot is good to 300,000+ miles.
If you otherwise love your Patriot, spend the bucks on a good replacement and enjoy your vehicle for many more happy miles. Quite frankly, I prefer my Patriot over anything else on the market today (and I also own a 2nd Gen Compass and a '21 Wrangler).
On the other hand, if you don't care for your Patriot, maybe donate it for a tax deduction or sell it to a DIYer or someone who has the time and money get the work done. I've donated two of my past vehicles to a charity that gets parts at cost and repairs them with donated labor, then gives the car to someone in need.
Putting my money where my mouth is, I recently put out the bucks for a new 5-spd at a Jeep dealer. Glad I did, because when it gave me trouble my dealer again replaced the transmission and clutch at no charge. While my Patriot has given me very few problems, at 200,000 miles I do expect some problems. I neither live in a fantasy, nor am I leading a charmed life: based on previous experience I think my Patriot is good to 300,000+ miles.
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Maybe I'm mistaken, but it looks like there's no brake pads in the calipers.
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Yes I removed them as they were sticking and causing the really loud grinding noises in the first few videos.
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If the noise is coming from the transmission, then (along with the transmission codes) I'd say you're looking at transmission replacement.
You may want to take it to a transmission shop that knows Jatco CVT's for a second opinion.
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