I’m new to forum and looking forward to learning more about my 2016 patriot latitude 4x4. Looking for advice on lifts, tires and aftermarket products to buy to make this bone stock Jeep a little more rugged. Thanks for having me.
Melrod
Hi Melrod, welcome to the site!
Lots of info here, going back several years.
If you're just looking for a more aggressive look and a small amount of clearance gain and not into pushing the limits off-road, then getting slightly larger, more aggressive tires is the easiest, least expensive, and least problematic route to go.
Info on largest tires with factory rims without lift or other mods is here:
www.jeeppatriot.com
Lots of info here, going back several years.
If you're just looking for a more aggressive look and a small amount of clearance gain and not into pushing the limits off-road, then getting slightly larger, more aggressive tires is the easiest, least expensive, and least problematic route to go.
Info on largest tires with factory rims without lift or other mods is here:
What's the largest tire I can put on factory...
What's the largest tire I can put on factory 16" or 17" rims w/o mods and no rubbing? For factory 16" rims, the largest tire w/o mods and no rubbing is 235/65R-16 Largest tire without lift. Largest tires without rub/lift/mods?? For factory 17" rims the largest tire size w/o mods and no...
www.jeeppatriot.com
Welcome! Tons of ideas in threads here. Maybe check out the "Builds" section to see what others have done
Welcome!
Using the search function may help. It's dark gray on the black stripe above with the misleading label "Search Community." It's a regular search box for the entire site.
Also, you might want to check out this thread: What have you done to your Patriot today? It's got several hundred posts. Chances are something will catch your eye.
Using the search function may help. It's dark gray on the black stripe above with the misleading label "Search Community." It's a regular search box for the entire site.
Also, you might want to check out this thread: What have you done to your Patriot today? It's got several hundred posts. Chances are something will catch your eye.
To clarify are you looking for actual capability or for the appearance even if it costs actual capability because you aren't really going off road you just want the look?
Those are two conflicting things so I'm asking in order to help you in the right direction.
Definitely will be off road. No stump jumping or deep mud bogging, just capable of getting me up in the N.GA mountains, Tenn and NC ,etc. I do a lot of fishing and hunting. Mainly slick red clay roads here and wood logging roads where I go. A lift and tires needed for sure. I haven’t been able to find a lot of off road bumpers and such for the patriot online. I want it to look good but functional above appearance for sure. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.
A set of skid plates might be a good investment if you don't already have them.
This is about all I've seen for off-road bumpers:
www.bluelakeoffroad.com
wambumpers.com
This is about all I've seen for off-road bumpers:
Jeep Patriot MK Front Bumper
Heavy duty steel replacement bumper for Jeep Patriot with the capability to mount a winch, support a grill guard, and mount recessed lights.
www.bluelakeoffroad.com
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Since your goal is to actually take it on rough roads you'll want to invest in the oem skidplates - they're discontinued but there appear to still be a few on shelves because almost nobody actually buys them. After all they aren't visually compelling and nobody spends money on things they can't show off.
There are two for the fuel tank and one for the engine/transmission. They're stout and provide comprehensive real protection. There are also recovery rated front tow hooks you can purchase, as well as a recovery rated rear hook (or if you have a receiver hitch you can use that for rear recovery).
Regarding lift and tires.. that's actually a more difficult proposition because the transverse engine arrangement and all of the chassis design implications from that mean that there really isn't much available in terms of lifting. Sure there are several kits on the market - basically it comes down to spacers or the Stu coils. Both come with some drawbacks.
Tires are another thing to consider, you don't have a low range transfer case and there is no way to improve gearing on these vehicles for difficult or steep terrain. That means that no matter what you do you're limited to about 2000 ft-lbs at the wheels... period. That might sound like a big number but remember that's at the wheels, after gearing. By comparison my Ram 1500 makes 410 ft-lbs at the crank and about 13000 ft-lbs at the wheels first gear, low range.
What that all means is even though it's possible to put 31" tires under a Patriot with enough effort that also is going to be a handicap when you actually want to use those tires to overcome difficult terrain.
In other words if your goal is truly off-pavement capability your money might be best spent on skidplates, recovery hooks and 29" tires (I went with 235/75R15 as they are abundantly available and an excellent fit) and not bother with lifts, bumpers or tires too big to effectively turn. Won't make you an instagram hero but might just get you to your favorite fishing spot.
There are two for the fuel tank and one for the engine/transmission. They're stout and provide comprehensive real protection. There are also recovery rated front tow hooks you can purchase, as well as a recovery rated rear hook (or if you have a receiver hitch you can use that for rear recovery).
Regarding lift and tires.. that's actually a more difficult proposition because the transverse engine arrangement and all of the chassis design implications from that mean that there really isn't much available in terms of lifting. Sure there are several kits on the market - basically it comes down to spacers or the Stu coils. Both come with some drawbacks.
Tires are another thing to consider, you don't have a low range transfer case and there is no way to improve gearing on these vehicles for difficult or steep terrain. That means that no matter what you do you're limited to about 2000 ft-lbs at the wheels... period. That might sound like a big number but remember that's at the wheels, after gearing. By comparison my Ram 1500 makes 410 ft-lbs at the crank and about 13000 ft-lbs at the wheels first gear, low range.
What that all means is even though it's possible to put 31" tires under a Patriot with enough effort that also is going to be a handicap when you actually want to use those tires to overcome difficult terrain.
In other words if your goal is truly off-pavement capability your money might be best spent on skidplates, recovery hooks and 29" tires (I went with 235/75R15 as they are abundantly available and an excellent fit) and not bother with lifts, bumpers or tires too big to effectively turn. Won't make you an instagram hero but might just get you to your favorite fishing spot.
How much time are you spending off the road vs on it? I currently run https://www.discounttiredirect.com/buy-tires/cooper-discoverer-at3-4s/p/39588 with no complaints, but if you spend alot of time on rougher terrain, it could be worth it to buy a heavier, tougher tire. I'm hoping to eventually be able to fit these https://www.discounttiredirect.com/buy-tires/bfgoodrich-all-terrain-t-a-ko2/p/10395 though of course there's other things to worry about at the moment.
OEM skid plates here:
www.justforjeeps.com
You can search these part numbers for pricing
5105236AB - Main Skid Plate (1)
5116330AB - Passenger's Side Plastic Shield (1)
5116057AC - Driver's Side Plastic Shield (1)
OEM front tow hooks here:
www.justforjeeps.com
OEM rear tow hook:
www.justforjeeps.com
Mopar Engine/Transmission Skid Plate for 2007-2017 Patriot MK and 2007-2017 Compass MK
Mopar Engine/Transmission Skid Plate for 2007-2017 Patriot MK and 2007-2017 Compass MK . Shop thousands of Aftermarket & OEM Jeep Parts & Accessories. JustForJeeps.com
www.justforjeeps.com
You can search these part numbers for pricing
5105236AB - Main Skid Plate (1)
5116330AB - Passenger's Side Plastic Shield (1)
5116057AC - Driver's Side Plastic Shield (1)
OEM front tow hooks here:
Mopar Front Tow Hooks for 2007-2010 Compass MK and 2007-2017 Patriot MK
Mopar Front Tow Hooks for 2007-2010 Compass MK and 2007-2017 Patriot MK . Shop thousands of Aftermarket & OEM Jeep Parts & Accessories. JustForJeeps.com
www.justforjeeps.com
OEM rear tow hook:
Mopar Rear Tow Hook for 2007-2017 Compass MK and 2007-2017 Patriot MK
Mopar Rear Tow Hook for 2007-2017 Compass MK and 2007-2017 Patriot MK . Shop thousands of Aftermarket & OEM Jeep Parts & Accessories. JustForJeeps.com
www.justforjeeps.com
I came from more heavy duty 4x4's too and I still have a Ram 4x4 for hauling and other heavier work - the Patriot was a deliberate choice because I'm seeing more marathons in my future than wrestling matches, travel-wise. I wanted something that would cruise all day long at highway speeds sipping less fuel than a Hemi, eating cheaper tires than a Hemi, with fewer spark plugs and fewer quarts of motor oil and basically lower operating costs in every way. We had some other reasons to want a small SUV beyond that but they're less relevant to this conversation.
In other words what I was looking for was something like a Mitsubishi Outlander.... but with skidplates and better approach and departure angles. As it turns out that's literally what the Patriot is so we're in business. I picked up an Altitude edition, did all the catch-up maintenance to help ensure it's reliable, installed the recovery hooks and skid plates and a hitch receiver - bought a lift kit but then decided not to install it for the reasons mentioned above and some reliability concerns others have come up against. So I went with the 235/75r15 tires on some used grand cherokee wheels. This thing's been a great little all-roads, all-weather traveler that gets me back to just about every hiking spot I point it at. The skidplates drag from time to time but they're built for it and the engineers did a pretty good job keeping the critical parts tucked up. These Jeeps have the BLD traction control system that simulates a limited slip differential at both ends by applying brakes to a wheel that doesn't have traction, it's not as good as locking diffs but it's a whole lot better than I expected it to be.
The only real struggle I ever have is with torque. My Patriot has the 6 speed automatic and there are times the trail gets just too steep for it and the transmission stalls out - I don't like cooking the poor thing so generally when I come up on those situations I back up, give it a couple tries to find the best line and maybe a little momentum if the situation allows. I've had to admit defeat a couple times but most often the vehicle does OK .
In other words what I was looking for was something like a Mitsubishi Outlander.... but with skidplates and better approach and departure angles. As it turns out that's literally what the Patriot is so we're in business. I picked up an Altitude edition, did all the catch-up maintenance to help ensure it's reliable, installed the recovery hooks and skid plates and a hitch receiver - bought a lift kit but then decided not to install it for the reasons mentioned above and some reliability concerns others have come up against. So I went with the 235/75r15 tires on some used grand cherokee wheels. This thing's been a great little all-roads, all-weather traveler that gets me back to just about every hiking spot I point it at. The skidplates drag from time to time but they're built for it and the engineers did a pretty good job keeping the critical parts tucked up. These Jeeps have the BLD traction control system that simulates a limited slip differential at both ends by applying brakes to a wheel that doesn't have traction, it's not as good as locking diffs but it's a whole lot better than I expected it to be.
The only real struggle I ever have is with torque. My Patriot has the 6 speed automatic and there are times the trail gets just too steep for it and the transmission stalls out - I don't like cooking the poor thing so generally when I come up on those situations I back up, give it a couple tries to find the best line and maybe a little momentum if the situation allows. I've had to admit defeat a couple times but most often the vehicle does OK .
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