Jeep Patriot Forums banner

Transmission is about to die. Worth the gamble to replace it?

834 views 15 replies 6 participants last post by  Sandstone  
#1 · (Edited)
Update for anyone that might still read this: we've got our vehicle back and it works like a dream! Now we can tell that it had been complaining for a while and I can't believe we missed the noises for so long. It took a total of 8k (clutch was also replaced) but I think it was worth it. Thank you again to everyone who read my panicked rant and provided their valuable info and support!


Original post:

Hello all!

I'll try and keep this short and sweet. Our only family vehicle is a 2016 Jeep Patriot Sport will a manual transmission. It is the pride and joy of my partner.
We bought it in an auction with very little miles (it had been in storage for the longest time it seems).

Fast forward 3 years, we are almost done paying for it. We're sitting at 72k miles and the noises start. It isn't too bad at first but after a couple months it is notorious and hard to miss. Chrysler dealership takes a look, diagnoses that the transmission is on its way out. The whole kit and caboodle will take 7k out of our bank account, with the promise of a lifetime guarantee on the scrapyard part they found for us.

Now, my partner is set that it is worth it. That the vehicle has a lot of life in it yet (my father-in-law only parted ways with his when the vehicle hit 250k miles) and that it is a good investment. All I can see right now is our savings getting poofed out of existence and the hope that it won't happen again. There are no explanations as to why this happened in the first place and my extremely limited mechanical knowledge doesn't help reassure me it won't happen again.

So I come to you for your wisdom. Is it normal? Were we just extremely unlucky to get this issue this early in the car's life? Is there anything we could do to prevent something like this? I never owned a car before so I'll admit I'm overwhelmed and lost so all and any advice helps. Thanks in advance!
 
#2 ·
Hi, welcome to the site.

I don't have a manual 5 speed, so I can't speak from personal experience.

But from what I've seen here, your experience isn't that different from many others:

Repairs can sometimes be made but don't always last long, and people have been having a difficult time finding replacement transmissions as they are apparently not in production and salvage yard inventories are quickly being depleted.

If it's truly a scrap yard transmission and not a Mopar remanufactured unit, 7k to me is a pretty high price to pay for an unknown quantity, and I'd be skeptical of the "lifetime" warranty.

Bottom line, to me it comes down to whether not you can find another car that will work for you as well for around the price of the repairs that will last as long and be as reliable otherwise.

if the Patriot is in otherwise excellent condition it might be worth it, but if it's got other problems like severe rust or engine / electrical problems it may be time to move on.
 
#3 ·
Thanks Sandstone!

Yeah, I'm skeptical as well. Especially because they wanted an extra 1000 from the original 6100 price to give it. But my partner wants to proceed and I don't have anything but a gut feeling to offer in opposition, so we'll go ahead with that plan.

The car is otherwise in excellent condition. No electrical issues and no rust either. So, hopefully the bet pays off. I'm guessing we'll need more research poured into the selection of a second vehicle when our finances recover after this.

Thanks again!
 
#5 ·
Welcome @RoroBlue!

I have a 2014 Patriot with the 5-spd. It has run fine with very few repairs. The transmission is about the only repair I've had; it went out around 190,000 miles. My dealer installed a factory rebuilt transmission for around $6000 and that included the clutch.

A few months later the new clutch began slipping. I did some good-faith research using a local mechanic first and then my dealer and we all agreed it was the output bearing that was leaking tranny fluid onto the clutch. Since the problem was the recently replaced tranny, my dealer replaced it again under the warranty. (Shout out to Hillsboro CDJR, Hillsboro, NH!)

I'm now at 220,000 miles and as I said, my Patriot has given me very few problems. I expect it to go to 250,000 miles. My 2008 made it past 300,000.

So to answer your question, I'm gambling that my Patriot was worth the repair. The $6000 I spent couldn't touch even a decent used car, and who knows what problems I'd be buying? I knew my Patriot and my previous Patriot was durable, so I took the risk.
 
#7 ·
Agreed, if the tranny runs for 12,000 miles, it will probably go the distance. You got a good price, but I really didn't shop around. I went to a dealer because my local guy doesn't want to do transmission work. He was willing to help me with diagnosis and gave me the info I needed to hold up my end of the discussion with the service manager at the dealership.
 
#12 ·
The manual transmission really doesn't need to be replaced, but that's the easiest solution for those doing the work. 90% of the time it's the bearings on the imput shaft or such. At about 120,000 tranny failure, couldn't get it in any gear. My local dealer analyst was to replace. I went to the next closest dealer and they said they would replace every bearing and anything else found when they opened it up and get it covered under our extended warranty. I said replace the clutch since you're in there and they said smart move and we won't charge book since we're already removed tranny. 7 workdays later everything done.
 
#15 ·
Update for anyone that might still read this: we've got our vehicle back and it works like a dream! Now we can tell that it had been complaining for a while and I can't believe we missed the noises for so long. It took a total of 8k (clutch was also replaced) but I think it was worth it. Thank you again to everyone who read my panicked rant and provided their valuable info and support!