It's best for longevity to change the fluid and filters every 30-50k max.

If the oil to water cooler (soup can over the cooler filter) is sludged up that can cause overheating.
It can also whine and overheat if it's overfilled, and it doesn't take much.

Have you checked for codes yet?

If you have an android device you can download a copy of CVTz50 - CVT diagnostics with ELM327 to check the internal pressures, and compare them to the charts at the link below:

CVT Success: In-Vehicle Isolation of Common Problems

All transmission models have unique problems that are common to that model; Jatco CVT units are no exception. Technicians are facing an uphill battle when it co

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It's best for longevity to change the fluid and filters every 30-50k max.

If the oil to water cooler (soup can over the cooler filter) is sludged up that can cause overheating.
It can also whine and overheat if it's overfilled, and it doesn't take much.

Have you checked for codes yet?

If you have an android device you can download a copy of CVTz50 - CVT diagnostics with ELM327 to check the internal pressures, and compare them to the charts at the link below:

CVT Success: In-Vehicle Isolation of Common Problems

All transmission models have unique problems that are common to that model; Jatco CVT units are no exception. Technicians are facing an uphill battle when it co

www.sonnax.com

Thanks, I have to get the codes, waiting on a new reader. No tranny sludge, both times we changed fluid it was not discolored at all. Even added a pan with a drain plug. Did that stupid located/hidden filter and also very clean. Thanks for the link. any link for a rebuilt cvt? I see a kit For 400$ + 380 for a chain. Awful high.

 

. . . Anyone want a project car? We do our own repairs, but no time for a tranny.

Not a bad idea. If you could find someone with a rusted frame you'd probably have a nifty vehicle.

What's the cost these days to rebuild that cvt?

When the 5-spd failed on my 2014 (190,000), it was about $5G for the whole deal--tranny & clutch. I didn't rebuilt it, I had it replaced. Clutch was still OK, though it chattered since new, but I figured it had as many miles on it as the tranny did so I bit the bullet.

Frankly I like our Patriot better than anything else I see on the market today. Wife drives it and won't trade with me for my 2019 Compass.

 

Not a bad idea. If you could find someone with a rusted frame you'd probably have a nifty vehicle.

When the 5-spd failed on my 2014 (190,000), it was about $5G for the whole deal--tranny & clutch. I didn't rebuilt it, I had it replaced. Clutch was still OK, though it chattered since new, but I figured it had as many miles on it as the tranny did so I bit the bullet.

Frankly I like our Patriot better than anything else I see on the market today. Wife drives it and won't trade with me for my 2019 Compass.

I am surprised that even the manuals fail, usually they go forever outside of a clutch. I think the cvt's go for about 5g too, usually a manual is a easy replace. Great car when running right, but that early death syndrome is a real show stopper.

 

2011 Patriot took a crap today. Funny there never was a class action lawsuit for those awful CVT transmissions.

The one class action attempt I am aware of was dismissed. Chrysler CVT Lawsuit Dismissed After Overheating Claims

Jatco Transmissions has a long history of transmission problems, notably in Nissans. A settlement was reached in a Nissan/JATCO class action. Go figure.

Nissan Defective CVT Transmission $277.7M Class Action Settlement

Nissan will pay $277.7 million as part of a CVT settlement resolving class action lawsuit claims certain vehicles were equipped with a defective transmission.

topclassactions.com

 

...any link for a rebuilt cvt?

Transtar supposedly has them, there's a location in Fresno.

Part #: 814-ABPB
$2,332.96 $400.00 Core

CVT Transmissions - Transtar Industries

There's lots of other places around too, since parts have been readily available.

 

Transtar supposedly has them, there's a location in Fresno.

Part #: 814-ABPB
$2,332.96 $400.00 Core

CVT Transmissions - Transtar Industries

There's lots of other places around too, since parts have been readily available.

Good link, but nothing with the off road crawl ratio. That seems to be a fairly rare tranny in the aftermarket. I found one used but not a chance I would put in a unit with 120k miles.

 

What fluid did you use when you changed it? And I'm guessing you didn't flush, just drain and refill?

 

I used the real stuff by Mopar, level good and no leaks anywhere. But no, I did not flush it and have never done that with a ton of cars. We have 8 trucks and cars and a few dozers, backhoes and a 50,000 pound JD 690 e excavator. So a little experience with iron and oil. Recent deaths: 01 explorer, trans 280k miles. 95 GMC 350hd flatbed dead trans at 80k miles. 91 Ford superduty 7.3 diesel, crew cab engine died at 290k. And now a jeep. Then my vet says the dog is dying, no mileage gauge, hour meter is 10 years. Kid totalled a 09 Ford cherry F-150 with just 48,000 miles on it, rolled it off road playing. Good air bags.... bad year!

 

Flushing a CVT can kill it quicker than the Flash can run to the lunch line. So it's a good thing you didn't flush it. I'm not sure how good exactly Mopar fluid is, but I've heard for viscosity ratings and keeping a CVT "alive", Amsoil is the absolute best, Valvoline a reasonable second and Castrol a close third. In the California sunshine I'd imagine that's even more important.

Sorry to hear about all the other issues, especially the dog, I know how tough it is to lose one.

If you get a CVT rebuilt though, I think you can get it for like $3k, maybe a little bit more because People's Republic of California. Maybe also less if you can get a sub-50k mile junkyard find. Just make sure if you go junkyard route that you get one from a 2010+ that's FD2 like yours if you want whoever replaces it to do minimal fiddling with it.

 

Flushing a CVT can kill it quicker than the Flash can run to the lunch line. So it's a good thing you didn't flush it. I'm not sure how good exactly Mopar fluid is, but I've heard for viscosity ratings and keeping a CVT "alive", Amsoil is the absolute best, Valvoline a reasonable second and Castrol a close third. In the California sunshine I'd imagine that's even more important.

Sorry to hear about all the other issues, especially the dog, I know how tough it is to lose one.

If you get a CVT rebuilt though, I think you can get it for like $3k, maybe a little bit more because People's Republic of California. Maybe also less if you can get a sub-50k mile junkyard find. Just make sure if you go junkyard route that you get one from a 2010+ that's FD2 like yours if you want whoever replaces it to do minimal fiddling with it.

Thanks... What is FD2? No one yet has a cvt with the off road crawl ratio. Fairly rare. Maybe that is why it made it to 150k unlike many, bigger cooler, perhaps better internals. Tons of regular ones with 120k on them called #A. Anything over 50k is a F in my book. Wonder if someone would take a walk in and rebuild it? No way I would suffer the removal and install without having new components in it. I will leave that to the flippers that get a Patriot for $300 at auction and throw junkyard junk back in it.

 

What is FD2?

That's what you have, the trail rated model with crawl ratio.

 

Good link, but nothing with the off road crawl ratio

Did you contact them and ask?

 

Found one on Ebay with 124k miles. Too high on miles I think.... $2100 But likely need work at dealer to reset computer due to ROM in the transmission valve body specific to my vehicle. TRANSMISSION 2007-2017 COMPASS PATRIOT 2.4L AWD 4X4 AUTO -OFF ROAD CRAWL- 124K | eBay

 

Great, thanks for the information. I have not yet called suppliers, too many other things got in the way. Waiting for a lull to decide what to do with this machine. Yes, this is the freedom drive that jerks you all around with the ABS system going up and downhill. Great system that it holds you from rolling back or forward in that crawl gear. I have a radical steep driveway with a cliff on one side and this is the only car that makes it safely when the snow is over 8" . Still, my wife parks it on the road and walks in. Defeated the purpose of that 4x4.
For me it is either a rebuilt or new [If sold] or the auction. I would like to try and rebuild one but it looks like over a thousand just for parts. And time. Never enough time.

 

But likely need work at dealer to reset computer due to ROM in the transmission valve body specific to my vehicle.

The ROM is on the side of the valve body (accessed by dropping the pan), it can be swapped before the transmission install.

For reference:

R8010997AE - MOPAR Transaxle package. With torque converter | Factory Chrysler Parts, Bartow FL

Genuine MOPAR Part # R8010997AE - Transaxle package. With torque converter. Remanufactured. Fits Compass, Patriot. Ships from Factory Chrysler Parts, Bartow FL

www.factorychryslerparts.com

New

2011 Jeep Patriot SPORT 2.4L 4 Cyl CVT 4X4 Transaxle package. With torque converter - RL010997AE | Factory Chrysler Parts, Bartow FL

Transaxle package. With torque converter. Transmission. 2011 Jeep Patriot SPORT 2.4L 4 Cyl CVT 4X4. Genuine Jeep Part - RL010997AE (68010997AE, 05190997AB, 04872997AB, 68010997AA, RL010997AA, 04872997AC). Ships from Factory Chrysler Parts, Bartow FL

www.factorychryslerparts.com

 

Nice, Thanks! I took a deep dive into Mopar transmissions new and rebuilt and found the Freedom drive/ low gear crawl units for abour $4200, Now I need a quote from a dealership to install. That factory warranty seems critical to make this calc out.

 

Freedom Drive is just the Patriot/Compass term for the 4x4 options. Freedom Drive 1 is the standard 4x4 option. Freedom Drive 2 has the extra cooling, bigger alternator, skid plates, and tow hooks.

 

That factory warranty seems critical to make this calc out.

I'd agree.

If the car is in otherwise good shape and something you want to keep awhile, it's worth the investment.

 

I'd agree.

If the car is in otherwise good shape and something you want to keep awhile, it's worth the investment.

The only codes I got were p0032and p0133 for #1 oxygen sensor. Should there be codes for the trans if it is dying? worth changing the oxygen sensor # 1 to see if any improvement?

 

Similiar story. 08 base cvt,>100k miles, babied, all of a sudden drove in 100+weather@85mph for 1.5 hours. Went into limp mode. Babied for next 700 miles to get home. Googled and tried most solutions short of cvt replacement. This led to multiple external temperature sensors, guages, and solenoids to control cvt temperature independent of engine as much as possible. The goal was to keep the cvt temp below 120. After several month of driving with no failure. I am convinced the design of the cooling system is the real culprit. My next step is to use a prius inverter coolant pump and figure out a way to use internal cvt temp to switch coolant flow. I think this could be a $300 diy solution. This is the short version probably not very clear, but let me know if I can help. I have gone from being unable to spend 30 minutes at highway speed to all through the really hot summer, heavy city traffic, a couple 300 + mile trips with no worries.

 

Welcome to the site!

85 MPH for 100 miles . . . Yipes! That is tough on one of our frail CVTs. And you're at 100,000 miles which according to many on this site (including moi ) is about when tranny troubles happen. A lot of Patriot owners have added a cooler. Seems it would be easier to source an OEM cooler. AYMK, it was available with the towing package. I presume they are still available.

As for your Patriot, if you've ever overheated the CVT -- and considering the miles you're at -- you'd be wise to change out the fluid and filters. Another culprit is the liberal maintenance intervals in the owners manual. As noted elsewhere in this thread, CVT maintenance should be done at least twice as often. If you haven't done it, you're well past due.

 

FWIW, someone adapted a RV transmission pump a few years back:

CVT Transmission Overheats, Whines, High RPM

I have a Jeep Compass with only 12,000 miles on it. Everyone with this CVT Transmission problem needs to call Chrysler Customer Service 1 800 334 9200 and report it, as CVT Transmission overheats, slows down, High RPM, and high pitch noise. The more we call the more they will look into it. Also...

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