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Willie - Black 2010 Patriot Sport 4WD 2.4L w/CVTII - Joying Head Unit & backup camera
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I recently purchased my Jeep from a used car dealer who used to be a Chrysler/Jeep dealer until 2009 when Chrysler was trimming fat. They've been in business for over 30 years.

My new toy is a 2010 Patriot Sport with CVTII and the 26E option package; 87,000 miles on the odometer when I bought it. One owner, who seemed to follow the maintenance schedule pretty religiously according to the CarFax that the dealer gave me. The only scheduled maintenance that was not documented was changing the front and rear power train fluids. It's really clean - very little rust underneath - unusual for a vehicle that's spent its entire life in Upstate NY. It's the first used vehicle that I've purchased that came with its original manual, and the DVD was in the glove box unopened. I've been able to watch the introductory videos, but the DVD requires Adobe Air, and I haven't been able to get it working on my vintage Macbook Pro. I did download the PDF manual (Thanks!) and have viewed a lot of threads here. The original window sticker was also in the glove box.

The only issues that I've had are noisy brakes (rust on the new disks & rotors) and the dreaded stalling/power loss after filling the tank (3 out of 3 so far).

Still getting used to the CVT - one thing I realy appreciate is the lack of downshift/upshift when I hit the varying speed limits in the small towns and villages here in semi-rural Western NY.

First tank of gas was 27 mpg, second was 25 mpg (my pulse-foot #1 son started driving it).

Here's a pic of it in my open-plan garage:

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Hi, welcome to the forums!

On the manual, the service on the CVT is 120k miles, but should be a lot sooner than that

30-50k is what I recommend between fluid and filters changes depending on driving conditions.

More info on how to DIY here:
 
Welcome to the group! Definitely get the CVT fluid and both filters changed ASAP, as well as the RDU and PTU gear oil. What part of WNY are you in? I'm in Buffalo. Just sold my '14 Patriot this past Halloween.
 
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Hi, welcome to the forums!

On the manual, the service on the CVT is 120k miles, but should be a lot sooner than that

30-50k is what I recommend between fluid and filters changes depending on driving conditions.

More info on how to DIY here:
Thanks -

I'd already gotten the items in a wish list on Amazon. I can't really do it myself now because of weather. No shelter for my vehicles. I'll talk to my local repair shop and see if we can make an arrangement. They've been really cooperative on things I've dealt with on other vehicles. My other reason is that the dealer gives a 2 year/unlimited mileage engine/powertrain warranty. The only conditions are changing the oil/filter every 4000 miles, and I have to provide printed receipts for any work that might be covered (including the oil changes while in warranty).
 
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Welcome to the group! Definitely get the CVT fluid and both filters changed ASAP, as well as the RDU and PTU gear oil. What part of WNY are you in? I'm in Buffalo. Just sold my '14 Patriot this past Halloween.
I made the 'mistake' of asking the dealer to change the RDU and PTU fluids this week, while they were looking at the brakes and 'investigating' the stalling on fill up issue. I wanted them both changed at the same time, even though the CarFax says "Transfer Case Replaced" at 80,000 miles. $144 for fluid and labor - UGH! The 'report' on the stalling issue says "Tech was unable to verify complaint". Well, I still had 1/4 tank gas when I picked it up last night, so...

I told 'Mr Pulse-foot' to never fill the tank all the way, which is his normal modus operandi anyway. I'll fill it at a gas station where there's little traffic so I can check gas mileage,

If you have sharp eyes, you might notice from the pic that the tires are a little undersize. 205/60 R16

I'm in Orleans County, Northeast of Albion.
 
...the 'report' on the stalling issue says "Tech was unable to verify complaint".
Not surprising.

FWIW, some have had good luck "un-sticking" the valve by thumping on the tank with a mallet.
 
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FWIW, some have had good luck "un-sticking" the valve by thumping on the tank with a mallet
I'll give that a try before my next fill-up.

BTW - When reviewing service intervals with the lead tech at the dealer, he asked whether the prior history indicated severe service. I said no. Thing is, when I checked the number of engine hours as specified in this post,


I calculated the average speed at 22.7 mph. That seems awfully low to me, which makes me wonder about what factors to look for from this kind of usage.
 
I'll give that a try before my next fill-up.

BTW - When reviewing service intervals with the lead tech at the dealer, he asked whether the prior history indicated severe service. I said no. Thing is, when I checked the number of engine hours as specified in this post,


I calculated the average speed at 22.7 mph. That seems awfully low to me, which makes me wonder about what factors to look for from this kind of usage.
That does seem like a low average speed. Considering how low your odometer reading is, maybe your Patriot was only used in the city. Or if it was used in the north country there may have been some long warm-ups. Ditto Sandstone on changing the CVT fluid and filters. Also I believe that temperatures below freezing qualify as "severe service," so that means most Jeeps north of Georgia qualify for "severe service."

Friendly advice: if your dealer is giving you a warranty, I suggest you get your work done there. That way, God forbid, if you have a problem you're a familiar face and they'll probably do more for you than they would for a stranger. They don't want to lose a regular customer.
 
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Friendly advice: if your dealer is giving you a warranty, I suggest you get your work done there. That way, God forbid, if you have a problem you're a familiar face and they'll probably do more for you than they would for a stranger. They don't want to lose a regular customer.
I totally agree in principle. In fact, when I bought the Patriot, I asked if they did routine service. His reply was along the lines of 'Sadly, no - can't get enough qualified techs'. I think it's obvious that if I'm having a problem with the vehicle, I can go to them. For routine stuff, I'll be going to the shop I've been using for the past 7-8 years. I have a really good relationship with them.

Plus, it tweaked my frugality gene when the dealer charged me $37 for two quarts of Autozone conventional gear oil, which retails here for $9.99 a quart.

So - the CVT fluid and filters change will probably get done at my trusted shop when I can get it scheduled.
 
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My Patriot and I are getting used to each other. When I first got it, it tended to have what I would describe as a throttle lag when accelerating from stop, and some stuttering of the drive system at the same time. Also, when removing my foot from the throttle, there was a noticeable 'silent thunk' when the CVT disengaged. In the course of my diving into the forums here, I found the throttle relearn procedure and the ability to reprogram tire sizes using JScan (as noted above, my tires are undersized). I did the throttle relearn and adjusted the tire size closer to what the Patriot is equipped with, and the symptoms have almost completely disappeared. I was driving with #4 son yesterday, and he volunteered how much more smoothly it was running.
 
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