5 speed manual transmission problems

TerryL · Apr 1, 2019

I have a 2014 Patriot, bought 2017 used... had 45000 miles took it in kept shifting hard they replaced clutch to the tune of $1679.50. I picked it up drove home and it wasnt right, had to have it towed to garage again now they say the transmission is shot $ 3950.00 aprox plus tax to fix. The drive train warranty was only for 60 months or 100000k miles which ever comes 1st. What a crock The vehicle is not worth it to fix. So disgusted.

Ignatz · Apr 1, 2019

TerryL said:
I have a 2014 Patriot, bought 2017 used... had 45000 miles took it in kept shifting hard they replaced clutch to the tune of $1679.50. I picked it up drove home and it wasnt right, had to have it towed to garage again now they say the transmission is shot $ 3950.00 aprox plus tax to fix. The drive train warranty was only for 60 months or 100000k miles which ever comes 1st. What a crock The vehicle is not worth it to fix. So disgusted.

Uh, welcome to the forum. I don't know what you mean by shifting hard. I'm not sure if Patriots have a hydraulic clutch, but if so, it could just be low on fluid. Regardless, don't panic, don't rush to the worst case scenario.

I'd get a second opinion. I've got a manual with 110,000 on it and it shifts fine. If something doesn't fail right out of the gate, it should be good for 10,000+. Get another mechanic to give it a look-see.

I once had a Pontiac that was giving me trouble. I was ready for a new transmission but my dealer found a cheap fix and I was out of it for $100. I can't say you'll be as lucky, but don't throw in the towel yet. These Patriots are pretty good machines, and manuals don't usually give problems until the clutch goes out. Of course there's no way of knowing how its been driven. If s/he (or you) rode the clutch and used the clutch to hold it on hills, then it could be blown. But that's not the vehicle's fault.

On another vehicle I had a garage try to tell me my ball joint were shot. I was POed and didn't do the work. It happily went another 80,000 and never needed that repair.

Get another opinion!

SandyP · Jun 26, 2020

Vic said:
My 2014 Jeep Patriot had first 5 speed manual transmission failure at 17K miles.
Ratcheting noise, scarred shafts and gears, damaged synchro's, warped case.

Dealer replaced it with brand new transmission assembly which failed again at just under 32K miles, pitted bearings.

After careful look at all documentation and consulting with service advisor, I am editing this post to reflect just pure facts, I got what I paid for.

None of the rhetoric on here can change that, Jeep is what it is, my cost is most likely in line with product value, so why argue with it.

In coming months this jewel will be traded in for something more reliable.

Do you still have this jeep? Has your issue been resolved? I also own a 2014 manual with only 63k miles on it and I'm replacing the transmission for the 2nd time. I am very disappointed that with this issue they have not fixed this and had a re call. This time the replacement is coming out of my pocket because if just went over the warrenty. I will be very upset if I will need to replace this again at another 20k miles. I have drove manual transmission my hole life over 30 years and never once had an issue, I have always preferred this over an automatic. Please if you have any insight on what will fix for good let me know. I contacted jeep and they only said sorry your having the ssue.

SandyP · Jun 26, 2020

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Pacerized said:
I'm now on my third 5 speed manual transmission. My first one lasted 105,000 my second one lasted around 50,000. From my experience the 2.4 engine seems sound although I've gone through several throttle bodies. The 5 speed manual transmission aren't very durable and I've had no issues with the clutch. I'm thankful that I bought the lifetime added care plus warranty which has paid for both transmission replacements. I'll buy another Jeep after this but I wouldn't buy one without the warranty.

Jeep isn't doing the lifetime warrenty anymore are they?

BJ19633 · Jul 7, 2020

Vic said:
My 2014 Jeep Patriot had first 5 speed manual transmission failure at 17K miles.
Ratcheting noise, scarred shafts and gears, damaged synchro's, warped case.

Dealer replaced it with brand new transmission assembly which failed again at just under 32K miles, pitted bearings.

After careful look at all documentation and consulting with service advisor, I am editing this post to reflect just pure facts, I got what I paid for.

None of the rhetoric on here can change that, Jeep is what it is, my cost is most likely in line with product value, so why argue with it.

In coming months this jewel will be traded in for something more reliable.

BJ19633 · Jul 7, 2020

Vic said:
My 2014 Jeep Patriot had first 5 speed manual transmission failure at 17K miles.
Ratcheting noise, scarred shafts and gears, damaged synchro's, warped case.

Dealer replaced it with brand new transmission assembly which failed again at just under 32K miles, pitted bearings.

After careful look at all documentation and consulting with service advisor, I am editing this post to reflect just pure facts, I got what I paid for.

None of the rhetoric on here can change that, Jeep is what it is, my cost is most likely in line with product value, so why argue with it.

In coming months this jewel will be traded in for something more reliable.

We are on our 3rd T355 Transaxle and our 3rd clutch issues in our 2015 Jeep Patriot. We bought the vehicle in 2018 with 27,000 Miles. within a year, the 5 speed manual transmission went out. 2183.00 dollars later.... Fast forward to May 2020, clutch goes out. Installed a Master Clutch Cylinder, and another slave cylinder, etc. By June 2020, we have a high pitched whine in the newly replaced T355 transaxle that was replaced in 2019. Jeep refused to repair while under Manufacturer's Warranty in 2019. Blamed the Driver. Here we are again... same issues a year later. We are filing a lawsuit against Jeep.

BJ19633 · Jul 7, 2020

We are on our 3rd T355 Transaxle and our 3rd clutch issues in our 2015 Jeep Patriot. We bought the vehicle in 2018 with 27,000 Miles. within a year, the 5 speed manual transmission went out. 2183.00 dollars later.... Fast forward to May 2020, clutch goes out. Installed a Master Clutch Cylinder, and another slave cylinder, etc. By June 2020, we have a high pitched whine in the newly replaced T355 transaxle that was replaced in 2019. Jeep refused to repair while under Manufacturer's Warranty in 2019. Blamed the Driver. Here we are again... same issues a year later. We are filing a lawsuit against Jeep.

Sandstone · Jul 7, 2020

BJ19633 said:
We are on our 3rd T355 Transaxle and our 3rd clutch issues in our 2015 Jeep Patriot. We bought the vehicle in 2018 with 27,000 Miles. within a year, the 5 speed manual transmission went out. 2183.00 dollars later.... Fast forward to May 2020, clutch goes out. Installed a Master Clutch Cylinder, and another slave cylinder, etc. By June 2020, we have a high pitched whine in the newly replaced T355 transaxle that was replaced in 2019. Jeep refused to repair while under Manufacturer's Warranty in 2019. Blamed the Driver. Here we are again... same issues a year later. We are filing a lawsuit against Jeep.

Maybe I missed it, but do you have the 4x4 or FWD?

Cleehb · Sep 16, 2020

So frustrated- 2011 5 spd patriot, have it since new. It popped out of gear since I had it, at 52k the gears shattered and fork bent. Luckily they replaced the transmission. But then again at 67k the bearing went bad in the transmission. It was covered under the warranty. Fast forward not even 2 years later With 86k and bearings are bad again, but this time dealership Says it’s not under warranty even though they put a new transmission in less than two years ago they say that the warranty would run off the original one, Therefore they won’t cover it. Totally disgusted.

ATozzi · Sep 22, 2020

Hey y'all, I tried searching through this thread, and didn't really see this problem before.
I have an '07 Patriot, 4x4 with a 5 speed manual. Bought it used about 4 years ago for about $6k off a guy in town. Mechanically in great condition, cosmetically not so much😂. My wife daily's this car and absolutely loves it. Road trips galore, get good gas mileage to boot!
I recently got into a pickle when we were driving through Wyoming on some dirt roads to our friends ranch. Went to make a turn and for the life of me, I could not get it to go into 1st, or 2nd gear. I eventually got it into 3rd but almost got ran over by a tractor fiddling around with the shifter.
I have felt for a little while that the clutch was grabbing higher and higher, like it starts to grab almost right when the clutch is just barely off the floor, but it never really posed a safety hazard until then.
What should be my first line of attack here? At first I thought this was a linkage problem, maybe a boot being worn out on the linkage, but now I'm wondering if this is a clutch problem? Maybe Hydraulic? I checked the brake fluid an it seems to be just fine (the clutch shares its hydraulic fluid from the brake fluid reservoir)

Anyone got a good guess?
Thanks!

Ignatz · Sep 22, 2020

Not on my Patriot but on a Cherokee I once had (unhappy story) the clutch was leaking fluid. In my case the clutch got lower and lower and the gears still sounded like I was grinding coffee.

Stoney · Mar 24, 2021

Ok people where is the best place to purhase a remanufacture 5 speed manual transmission for my 2104 jeep patriot. As most of you know these transmissions are junk, the current one has 112000 mostley highway miles. It grinds and howls like crazy and wont stay in 4th gear now, ive been driving it but im sure it will blow up soon

ATozzi · Mar 24, 2021

I went to High Country Transmissions on Alameda just west of 25. These guys are the real deal. I have visited a number of other shops around town, and I don't think I'll be going anywhere else. I was told by two other shops that I would need to have my synchros replaced and also the clutch, and it would come to something in the ball park of $3000 (I bought the damn car for $6k) I kinda stumbled on these guys and I'm so glad I did. The owner Larry drove my jeep around and he said he didn't think that it was in fact the synchros, and that the clutch was really to blame for all my problems.
He quoted me a super fair price, and got it in to the shop within a couple days (mostly just waiting on the supplier to ship the parts). It took maybe another 2 days and he stuck to his original quote 100%. I've been driving it around for a couple months since, and it feels like new again. I'm so glad I didn't listen to the other shops. Long story short, these are the guys.

High Country Transmissions

mr_et2 · Mar 25, 2021

Definitely gotta give shops like this the praise they deserve, and all the business you can send their way. It's way too hard to find a good, honest shop these days.

Ignatz · Mar 25, 2021

mr_et2 said:
Definitely gotta give shops like this the praise they deserve, and all the business you can send their way. It's way too hard to find a good, honest shop these days.

I think most shops would like to do a good honest job. That is difficult because of the complexity of contemporary vehicles. Who would think that a bad computer program could cause oil consumption? But that is how FCA is solving it. Most mechanics would start looking for a leak or bad rings, and that is major work.

It used to be just air, fuel and spark, but now those things are all controlled by a computer. If the ECM goes on the fritz, it is more than a mechanical problem. Shops now need a software technician besides the traditional mechanics. Who can blame a mechanic for getting confused.

ATozzi · Mar 26, 2021

Yea, well said. I don't want to dis the other guys, which is part of why I didn't mention their names. It just seemed a little too suspicious to me that the tranny would be that tanked that it would need to be torn apart. The other shops were super nice, and I would have been happy to give them my business too, but just I know something wasn't right with their diagnosis. I know just enough about cars to be dangerous, and would have attempted the clutch fix myself if I had a lift and all the tools.

mr_et2 · Mar 26, 2021

My faith in repair shops has been greatly diminished in the last couple years. 2 years ago I took my mothers Saturn in for an alignment, the guy tells me that the car needs a strut rod badly, and that it isn't even safe to drive as is. I gave the guy a shocked look, because I know what a strut rod is and I know that Saturn Ions definitely don't have those. Before I could question him he offered to show me. He led me out to the car on the lift and pointed to a metal bar, then grabbed it and it flopped all around, while he was telling me it was so loose it was about to fall off. That metal bar wasn't even a part of the car, it was just something that he had propped up in there, he obviously thought that I was a complete idiot. Just imagine how many people that guy's ripped off.

Last year I bought my mother an '06 Rendezvous to replace her Ion (the electric steering motor died). I got it cheap because it needed a lot of work. I replaced all of the control arms, all 4 wheel hubs, all the brake calipers/pads/rotors, shocks/struts, etc. Took it in for it's New York state safety inspection and the shop tried to fail it because "the front struts are old and dangerously worn out". Seriously. I told him he must have me confused with another customer because I replaced those myself just the other day. He apologized and told me he did have me confused with another customer... but he walked straight from the Rendezvous to me and I was the only customer there.

I've got several more personal examples from over the years. That's the main reason I try to do all my own work. I have found 2 good shops that I whole-heartedly endorse and promote to friends/family in my area, but they're both about 20 miles from me and usually really busy.

Ignatz · Mar 26, 2021

I know what you mean, @mr_et2. When I was about 25 I had a Plymouth that was just barely out of warranty. I went for an inspection and they told me it failed because the ball joints were shot. I told them not to touch the car; I wanted a factory rep to look it over and explain why such a new car could fail inspection. I went back to get it that night, and they'd put an inspection sticker on it and told me that after looking it over they decided it would "just barely pass." I drove it for several more years without replacing the ball joints. They saw a kid and figured they could screw me. That stealership went out of business shortly after that.

theGarinator · Mar 29, 2021

Mil09Patriot said:
Just dropped mine off yesterday for a rebuild, been having trouble getting it into 3rd and 4th for a while and it just recently started popping out of gear while accelerating... waiting for the final report once they tear it all apart to see what was exactly causing it. Glad I purchased the warrantee when I got it, only had it 6 months. 09 4x4 with 126000 miles

@Mil09Patriot

Interesting you say that, because I just had a new transmission put into my 2008 and downshifting from 4 to 3, sometimes (often actually) the shift gets kicked back into neutral, I can feel it doesn't want to go into third so I let it go till I slow right down then it will go into third. NEVER happens shifting up though.

jesse.william.evans · May 1, 2024

sweeper said:
Mine just went @ 150,000 miles, free replacement.

How did you get a free replacement? I am at 150,000 and am starting to have issues putting it into first gear.

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