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TopangaPat said:
I did a google image search for progressive SUV design.. and it's not good :(

https://www.google.com/search?q=pro...LhoASrvYCwAQ&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1218&bih=869#tbm=isch&q=progressive+suv+design
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It's not, though if the ComPatriot looks like all of those then it will be average.

That said, the KL Cherokee with its radical styling sold more units last year then either the KJ or KK Liberty's ever did in a year. It's hard to argue boxy when faced with that statistic. Plus, rounded styling has significant impacts on fuel economy. Even things like the shape of the roof rack can impact fuel efficiency. And given gov't regulations, Jeep has no choice but to improve there. Worse then that, the overall fuel efficiency requiremets FCA has to meet mean they need every mpg they can get from their SUV's because they still aren't doing all that well on cars.

I'm not sure where that puts the new vehicle, though. Conventional wisdom was that it could very well continue the second gen Compass idea and be a smaller version of the Grand Cherokee, but that hardly seems to fit Manley's comments. And a smaller version of the Cherokee styling would be hardly noticeable since the ComPatriot won't be all that much smaller. So who knows at this point. I guess it could end up looking like a wagon or crossover, though. Like a bigger Subaru Crosstrek or something.
 
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However, he intimated that the new Jeep's look will be a big change from the Patriot and Compass.
 
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sask_riot said:
I clicked out link, scrolled for a bit then fell in love with this:
http://carfullon.com/khan-design-land-rover-defender-2015-release-2302.html
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Heh yeah I saw that too.. I was going to say also that if fuel regulations are such an issue how is Jeep able to sell Wranglers.. or that thing (I want one too but I can imagine what it cost and how many gallons to the mile).. or the Mercedes g500??

At any rate.. if all the manufacturers are being forced to make progressive cars (because of fuel efficiency concerns then how is what Jeep is planning not normal??? sounds like marketing BS.
 
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I find this to be pretty disappointing, myself, and I assume a large population of Jeep owners, whether it be old Cherokee, Wrangler or Patriot, love and appreciate the square utilitarian look of our Jeeps. The argument about changing all of that for regulation reasons is complete BS, hence the Wrangler. Also with every SUV being created and designed these days looking like a hunch back squinting while limbo dancing, how can they call that progressive, it will look like ever other run of the mill SUV/Crossover. Just my two cents, but when I drive out to the bush, I want a vehicle that looks and feels like it belongs there, and didn't get lost on my way to my underwater basket weaving class. Cheers!
 
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Side note to my last: All the Patriot needs is a new engine option with beefier suspension and gearings, plus a little more mod friendly and BAM! all those Jeep fanatics that loved their old Cherokees now have a viable option.
 
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ryne said:
Side note to my last: All the Patriot needs is a new engine option with beefier suspension and gearings, plus a little more mod friendly and BAM! all those Jeep fanatics that loved their old Cherokees now have a viable option.
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well.... yes and no. The cherokee was rwd. people love them now because you can lift them really high, and they have a floor-mounted transfer case. we already lifted the pat as much as it can go, and its only a matter of time before RRO quits making the lift for them. you can only do so much with a FWD priority vehicle when it comes to offroad.
 
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ryne said:
I assume a large population of Jeep owners, whether it be old Cherokee, Wrangler or Patriot, love and appreciate the square utilitarian look of our Jeeps.

Also with every SUV being created and designed these days looking like a hunch back squinting while limbo dancing, how can they call that progressive, it will look like ever other run of the mill SUV/Crossover.
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Bingo.

Well said.....

I bought my 2015 because I was afraid there would be no more Patriots. I hate the look of the Cherokar. It looks like one of those Fords.
 
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@ moparnumber1, agreed, another aspect that could be changed to appeal to the more offroad inclined crowd, since they have 3 other vehicles in the line up for the casuals.

@ Murphy Slaw, I hear ya, I have loved my Patriot since I got it in 2011 and now that the old lady has a nice government job, I told her I would sell her my Jeep, this way I can get a new one, which honestly will either be another Patriot or a fairly stock Wrangler.
 
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Well, I've seen a Renegade and its not bad looking, just overpriced. My guess is the price will crash once the novelty is past, as the price came down on the PT Cruisers. Remember there were additional dealer mark-ups on those (disguised as "Inventory Cost" or some such).

If the Compatriot (aren't you glad we didn't do the contraction starting with the Patriot?) gets replaced it will have to be the biggest hit in automotive history to make up for the fantastic sales figures the Patriot has been achieving. Killing off a winner to make room for a loser will rank up there with the Vega and the Edsel.
 
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