Sounds to me like a good set of all-terrain tires might be in order? Yokohama G012 seems to be popular in this forum. Haven't really looked at the issue from the "what tire has the strongest side wall"-angle though.

 

Are the holes more on the sidewall or the tread part of the tire?

You're about the only person I'd recommend the BFG AT to. Expect a fuel economy and performance hit.

Do those tire warranties include this type of damage? If so, then, I'd just get some other better all terrain tires (not the BFG) and use the warranty as needed.

 

I have used BFG AT tired before on my trucks. They are a hard tread, great for off roading. They can be very loud on pavement. The faster you go, the louder they are. After a while of pavement driving, they will wear flat. At least on a rear wheel drive truck (4x4 when not locked in), they can be slippery on wet pavement.

Another downside to AT tires, they usually have little to no warranty. They expect you to be off-road with a AT tire. They expect you to run over stumps, rocks, sticks, logs, etc. Therefor they don't offer much of a warranty.

I would see what tires other people who drive that road use.

- Dan M

 

What causes the flats? Rim leak? Valve stem leak? Hole in tire?

 

Run-flats may be an option, but one of the chief complaints is harsh ride.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=56

 

The flats are all caused by objects in the tread area of the tire: rocks, nails... you name it. None of the flats have been caused by damage to the sidewall.

For the BFGoodrich T/A KO is this the size you would use? (225/70R17)

For the suggestions to get an all-terrain tire, i do not specifically find anything at all (tirerack.com) in size 215/65R17. Would I use the 225 for any of them?

 

Do other cars use this road? I would say those are the people to talk to. How do they solve the problem? Finding a tire that will deal with rocks and sticks is one thing, but nails, glass, and other garbage is a totally different animal. You may need to explore the "run flats" like Harbor suggested.

 

I've got the exact same problem with the SR-A's, just not as severe as I only drive sharp rocky roads in the summer weekends. Two flats last summer, when the last 8 years driving the same roads on Michelin LTX yielded 0 flats.

I think the

You can't get the BFG's in a 17" size, so I've gone with buying 16" rims and will be getting 235/70-16 BFG A/T's. This is the biggest size that'll fit without rubbing the wheel wells.

 

http://www.jeeppatriot.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8128

http://www.jeeppatriot.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4086

 

run flats would be useless i think because the tire will still lose its air and like eventually he would still have to fix it. get solid rubber tires

also if u get tire with a aggressive tread, u could get big rocks stuck in the tread blocks and they'll shoot up and damage the wheel wells and under body and it wont be pretty, especially if the tires stick out on the sides, then you will also be damaging fenders and doors.

 

The BFG 225/70R17 would probably be the toughest tire. Any LT load rated tire would do, but that's the only one I know of that fits our Jeeps.

 

Look into Goodyear Silent Armor Wranglers. Among other protection, they have a Kevlar belt that protects the tire. They're expensive, but might just meet your needs. They are rated one of the best tires in their class for both on/off-roading.

 

225/70/17
THEY WILL RUB..................WILL THEY???????????????

 

29.4" diameter - probably, but less than 245/70-16's would.

 

I am wondering the same thing... will the BFG 225/70/17 rub? what about with snow, mud getting involved...

 

Tire OCD

ames 1584

So I keep a word document of possible tire options for my Patriot. My requirements are these, it must fit my stock 17 inch FDI without rubbing and without worrying about offsets or backspacing.

As anyone in this situation can attest, the options are limited for an all terrain tire that fits these parameters. It for sure means going with a larger tire. Here are the tires that I have come up with in each size.

In some instances I have included weight (#) and cost (te = tireeasy.com, tr = tirerack.com and ls = lesschwab.com)

225/65-17 Yokohama Geolandar A/T-S #31 $140(te) $132(tr), Pirelli Scorpion ATR #31, Firestone Destination LE, Goodyear Fortera TripleTred
235/60-17 Toyo OPEN COUNTRY A/T $144(te)
235/65-17 Yokohama Geolandar A/T-S #33, Pirelli Scorpion ATR #38, Bridgestone Dueler A/T Revo #31 $167(te) $160(tr), Toyo OPEN COUNTRY A/T $176.00 (ls) $148(te), Multi-mile Wild Country XTX Sport $192.00 (ls) $153 (te)
*note some people have reported mild rubbing with this size.

This size is questionable as to weather it will fit or not:
225/70-17 Yokohama Geolandar A/T-S #36 , All-Terrain T/A KO #42 29.6

Some sizes and their diameters
215/65-17 28
225/65-17 28.5
225/70-17 29.4 or 29.6
235/60 – 17 28.1
235/65-17 29

If you go to a 235/65-17 you have some great options. I would go with the Toyo AT or the Revo. If you don't want to go that big, I would go with the Toyo AT in 235/60-17. That is your best bet.

 

...also, where do you live? If you live on the West Coast of the US go through Les Schwab. They have a great warrenty program. You can get road hazard coverage if you get tire online through tireeasy.com and tirerack.com.

 

Again, I had the BFG M/T's on my Compass....225/75R16's. NO LIFT. NO PROBLEM.

Specs on those tires: Overall Diameter: 29.5" Section Width: 8.8"

Specs on the 'New' BFG A/T's: Overall Diameter: 29.6" Section Width: 9.0


Not much difference....only .1" on O.D. and .2" on S.W. Judging by what space I had left on my Compass, they would work on IT. The Patriot's wheel openings are shaped differently so I can't say for sure that they will fit it, but my 'S.W.A.G.' is that they would.


As for mud/snow/etc....again, I had no problem with my Compass and the M/T's on it.

 

ur road sounds like ones very similar to some in my area...i choose the yokohama ATs because i had used them on my Monter Sport and didnt have any problems with them. since getting them for the jeep i also got a set for my durango, and have driven many miles up and down a gravel road to and from fossile beach and up and down antonlarson. like others have said, ur best bet is a AT tire that is atleast a 7-10ply tire.

 

Link to Goodyear SilentArmor Wranglers at Tire Rack.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Goodyear&tireModel=Wrangler+SilentArmor

While you're there, you can view other manufactures' tires, as well.

 

We have put over 3000 miles on our Pat with the 225 70 16 BFG AT's with no flats, no rubbing, and a decent year round tire. (mud and snow) The MPG has gone down a bit, but still cheaper then buying new "car tires" every 3 weeks. (Most of our Highways a mix of Hi-Flo, asphalt ard gravel.) Steel belted tires are a must have.