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Patriot Lift Kit, Yes or No?

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Hey everyone. I know this topic has been brought up so many times but honestly I don't have the patience to read through thousands of posts. Can anyone give me a definitive Yes or No regarding lift kits for the Patriot? Here in South Africa every 4x4 specialist company tells me my steering will "fall out" or "dont do it" or "Buy a wrangler" or "Patriots cant be modified". Can a patriot be lifted without any steering/installation/handling/alignment problems or will I stuff up my vehicle having it installed? And if it can, what brand is the best? I'm a printer and not a mechanic/enthusiast so I really don't have much knowledge about what makes a car go forward once you turn the ignition on :) Thanks in advance and sorry for bringing up this topic again!
Cheers Gavin
 
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Another option is the Rocky Road lift, and the newer, almost identical but with fewer problems for whatever reason, Performex lift. Rocky Road is 100% Utah, United States, and I think Performex is USA as well. Both are suspension spacers of about 2" with a few other components that a mechanic would know pretty well. Once installed the vehicle just needs a precise alignment. And no, the suspension won't even think about allowing you to run more than one of these lifts at the same time unless you have so much weight onboard that even the stiff STU springs sag under it all.
 
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Thanks Rosso Racer. I had a look at the Rocky Road kit and and they seem pretty confident but I've read so many bad reviews online on different sites about their lift kit that I got spooked. Average rating of 3/10 everywhere... so yeah... I dunno
 
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If you do a search for RRO and vibration, you'll find several people have had problems, going back several years. IMO, the reason is the RRO spacer is too tall (1 3/4"), which can allow the drivers side inner CV joint angle past it's maximum of 23 degrees causing it to bind, hence the vibration.

One member added sub-frame spacers to get rid of the vibration problem, but because sub-frame spacers off-set the lift spacers, clearance gained from the spacers is lost.

The perfomex leveling kit (doesn't come with alignment hardware) is similar to the RRO only in that it is a spacer that mounts to the top of the strut using what are essentially ATV wheel spacers. The spacer is only about an inch and won't expose the CV axle to as high an angle as the RRO, hence the lack of vibration issues, but it will not provide as much lift as the RRO. IMO it's also fairly expensive (about $300 USD) for what is provided considering the lack of alignment hardware that will have to be purchased separately.

Stu's coils lift kit (alignment hardware provided) provide lift due to a different spring rate which doesn't allow the spring to compress as far under the weight of the vehicle compared to stock. The trade off is a firmer ride (which can be helpful off-road) along with less chance of bottoming out, but no risk to the CV joints as the range of travel with respect to the inner CV joints is the same as stock. With Stu's you can also disconnect your sway bars for better articulation and control off-road; again without worrying about maxing out the CV joints.

I've run Stu's for a few years now without issues.

I'm also currently experimenting using Stu's with a 1" spacer lift I made myself, and so far the results are good.
http://www.jeeppatriot.com/forum/16...spension-tires/330426-diy-spacer-lift-kit-w-stucoils-installed.html#post1822018
I have about 11" of clearance under the lowest part of the front skid plate, and no vibration. I'm running 29" tires.

There's another approach from Rough Country that combines a coil spring spacer (provides lift in a similar way to Stu's), along with a small spacer lift in front and custom control arms in back. IMO this lift kit looks like it should work well, but it's newer and I haven't seen a lot of feedback on it yet.

So, going back to my other response, if you want a complete lift kit off the shelf that's tried and true, and not have any worries about vibration, alignment, cv joints, etc. (with the possibility of adding a spacer for more lift) then IMO right now I'd say Stu's would be a good safe bet.
 
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Hey Gavin,

If you need them because you'll be going through mud, and need better tires and a lift, okay. If its just for looks, I wouldn't bother. Save your money

stucoils seem like the ones I would get if I did want a lift as I researched it a bit. I have so much in my life going on , I dont need another responsibly, when my jeep works perfectly fine
 
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My opnion? Unless you're going to be going off road regularly, Don't bother. It puts a ton of extra wear on your parts. If you are going off road? you put a bunch of wear doing that and will need to do premature replacements anyways, but if its a street car? nope, just drop to a set of 15" wheels with 3.5-4" of back spacing and a nice 28" tall tire and call it good. Gives you a lifted look without the drawbacks.
 
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Unless you really, really need it for work, NO
 
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Hey there, so I would like to do the stucoil+1" spacer setup...
Do I have to fab a spacer myself that works? Or is there a design that would work that you could point me to?
Lol maybe something simple and cheap off of Amazon?
I see some options that appear to be "universal" and others that seem vehicle specific... no matter what, every single option seems to tell me that it is not compatible with the jeep patriot lol.

It seems like this one I found is most similar looking to the perfomex spacers
 
#19 ·
After owning and driving my Patriot for a short while, going camping along some pretty tough roads (for a CUV), I decided to not bother with lifting it and just spend the money on skidplates and recovery hooks instead. I already have traction boards and a shovel and hand winch, straps, etc. as well.

Since we have such limited torque and no low range it's hard to make a good case for significantly larger tires nor for increasing wind resistance on the highway. I don't care at all about instagram cred so looking "tough" isn't even a concern I strictly want it to perform well and be reliable.

So in my case I decided not to lift it and I think it's more capable this way both on and off the road. But everyone's got different motivations.

Nothing's more expensive than a cheap modification :)
 
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The OP hasn’t responded for 2 years... for what it’s worth, my opinion is that a lift is 100% worth it if you wanna go off-road. You can get skid plates and recovery hooks but you ain’t getting very far in the first place without a lift to even take advantage of the other stuff. Trust me. I went lift first and then am pursuing all the other stuff
 
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