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#1 ·
Hi. I just bought the new 11 Patriot, stock came with 205/70/16r tires.

They actually fill the wheel well pretty nice but I would like more width. I did a search but I would like to know what's the max size for a stock suspension? Thanks
 
#2 · (Edited)
Max without rubbing? Max without rubbing when the suspension is compressed? Max which will fit in the spare tire well if you want a full size spare equal to your tires on the road?

Your stock tire is 205 mm wide and 27.3 inches tall. The optional wheel and tire package has 215/65R17 tires which are 215 wide and 28.0 inches tall. You can do a 215/70R16 tire on your 16 inch wheels which will be 215 wide and 28.0 tall, the same size as the 215/65R17 optional tire, with no problems.

Next size up is the 225/70R16, 225 wide and 28.4 inches tall, with probably no problems in the wheel wells, but you may not be able to get one in the spare tire well, even if you pull the insulation out. Or maybe you can. It seems to depend on the specific make and model of tire.

Going beyond that in width and height seems to get where you are starting to rub in the wheel wells. But you said stock suspension. If you are interested in or wanting to lift your Patriot, then search the threads for the RRO lift kits and Stu's coil spring lifts.

For what it is worth, going to a taller, heavier tire will adversely affect performance and handling on paved roads. It may help handling on rough roads. It will probably help on trails. The taller and heavier it is, the more adverse effect it will have on gas mileage, performance and handling on paved roads.

I had a split sidewall on one of the stock 205/70R16's on a rocky, poorly maintained road I travel regularly. I wanted a more durable tire for that road. I'm going to 215/70R16 Yokohama Geolander AT-S because it is the same size as the upgrade factory Patrioit upgrade wheel and tire package and will just fit in my spare tire well. The 225/70R16 Geolander AT-S would not. The Geolander AT-S's have a good reputation with those on here who use them.

I considered using four 225/70R16 Geolanders on the ground, and a 215/70R16 in the spare tire position, but decided to have all of my next set of tires the same size. I wasn't changing tires to make my Patriot look "non-stock" and didn't want to adversely affect highway performance any more than necessary, since that is what I do 99% of the time.

I am switching to the 215/70R16 Geolanders as my stock tires wear out/fail. I replaced the first one which failed with a split sidewall with the Geolander, which is now in the spare tire well. I still have five of the 205/70R16's. When I no longer have four of them with decent remaining tread, I will switch to all 215/70R16 Geolanders.

It's a judgement call as to what you want to prioritize in your tire choice.

Some people replace their stock tires soon after buying their Patriots, others wait until after they have gotten some use out of them. Used stock tires don't bring a very high price.

Hope this helps.
 
#7 ·
NOOOO is too much the difference!!!!

215/60 17
total diameter:
27.16"

vs

235/45 17
total diameter:
24.33"
difference : -10.43 %

you can had a differences +/- 2.5%....
 
#5 ·
Check out the Suspoension and Wheels section under the "Knowledge Base".

Also you can do a search on 235/45R17.
 
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#6 ·
want to keep your 16" rims???

you can buy 225/65 r16 without any problem, you´ll keep your size: 27.3" (total, oem size) vs 27.52" with 225 /65.

so, the difference in % is .87% and you can change the size between +-2.5% of difference.

for example, if you put 235/60 r16, the stock size is 27.3" vs 27.1" !! = -.72% :D

good luck:D
 
#21 ·
want to keep your 16" rims???

you can buy 225/65 r16 without any problem, you´ll keep your size: 27.3" (total, oem size) vs 27.52" with 225 /65.

so, the difference in % is .87% and you can change the size between +-2.5% of difference.

for example, if you put 235/60 r16, the stock size is 27.3" vs 27.1" !! = -.72% :D

good luck:D
this was exactly the info I was looking for......so okay to keep the oem rims if I buy bigger tires such as 225/70R16? I bought a 2016 (second car I drive for fun) and I would like wider tires so the jeep could look better.
 
#8 ·
I know this thread is old but i have a 2012 Jeep Patriot and have a RRO lift it which is 2 1/8 inches. Whats the max tire size i can have with no rubbing on small rims like 10-15 inches ? I plan to put the biggest tires and some dick creek rims and a nice bull guard in between my fog lights and putting the spare tire and rim on the trunk door. Any advice will help, i wont be on paved roads much, i pretty much stay in the city and we have freaking pot holes left and right, u cant miss em.
 
#15 ·
Bigger is not always better. As RHill said it affects performance on-road, especially in snow and ice.

Try looking at 16" or even 15" combinations. A thinner tire will serve you even better. I believe you can fit a 215/75R15 which would do very well.

If you are set on an 18" try going with a 215 as well. As, the thinner the tire, the better off you are in snow/ice, to my understanding at least.
 
#19 ·
I also considered the Hercules AT2 and Cooper ATW for my wife's Patriot FD1. Went with the Cooper ATW in 235/75R16. The tread width is actually no wider than the stock P215 tires; I'm also a fan of taller skinnier tires in the winter. We'll see how they do. Pictures in a gallery under my username.
 
#22 ·
235/65R16 will work without rubbing on stock rims and no mods.