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I've almost gotten in wrecks twice jumping out into traffic because my Jeep feels the need to limit my throttle to about 25% or less until I hit 2500 rpm randomly. No Idea why, and I know I'm not the only one. Dealer can't do anything about it because there are no error codes. These are the times when I found out neutral-slamming it does nothing. I even posted a vid of it a while ago I can post it up if anybody wants to see.
 
Also this is a Jeep, Jeeps have a high "tip in"? I think it's called. Basically if you're driving down a bumpy road and your foot quickly presses and releases the throttle it is ignored to prevent you from surging ahead when all you did was hit a bump. Also the throttle may not be linear, sometimes I swear it takes 3/4 of the pedal travel to get something other than light purring. Then the last 1/4 is fairly rapid. If you want more power apply more pedal and hold it there. It seems like some people are afraid to push more than 1/2 way.
 
5-speed manual. Still not a drag racer, but about as quick as most other CUV's....
Yes indeed...& that's the reason I went for the manual for my '14 Pat.
That plus I've only had stick on all my vehicles over the years. I prefer it, period. I was hooked on stick since my first vehicle...a '66 GTO so long ago.
 
I'm coming from my old XR4Ti that was heavily modified and pushing 30psi of boost through a radiator sized intercooler... so pretty much any car that that I can afford feels extremely slow in comparison ;)

That said - I've gotten used to the low horsepower/torque from the 2.4L/CVT combo... It isn't fast but it certainly isn't the slowest vehicle off the line - especially if you're accelerating at part throttle to remain fuel efficient.
The part that bothers me is that it is kind of inconsistent - some times it has a lot of pep, other times it just doesn't want to go.
One strange thing I noticed is that after a really long road trip it actually seemed more responsive and "peppy" while driving around town. Not sure why that would have been the case... but there was a definite difference.
 
Yep.

I outran a Corvette the other day with my 2015, 2.4, 6 speed.

I don't get these complaints either........
I wonder what was wrong with the Corvette? Maybe he was bringing a bowl of goldfish home to his kids.

Or did you misspell Chevette?

When I had my Grand Prix I got beat away from a light by a dumpy old Ford -- that's when I realized my catalytic converter was plugged.
 
Or maybe the Corvette wasn't trying. When bobtailing an 18-wheeler I often had fun beating folks off the line at stoplights, but had they stepped on their pedals harder, most if not all could have easily beaten me.
 
The auto ones are definitely more sluggish. Especially the CVT's. They have an antivibration feature to save the belt's lifespan. Its impossible to "launch" off the start with a cvt. You can even rev it up to 4k, slam it in drive, and it will slowly ease into gear like a student driver learning to drive a clutch lol
So true...you can hit the brakes, push the pedal to the floor, auto-stick in 1, and TC fully off, anddddd still nothing exciting. It'll just mosey off the line, maybe even slower than just mashing the pedal in "D" off of the line.

The only way I've (accidentally) been able to "launch" my Patriot is to change from driving in reverse to drive and then push the pedal to the floor. It'll kick in pretty good but then seems to have a lag to compensate.
 
So many of you still seem to be working under the assumption that just stomping on a CVT and holding it all the way to the floor gives the best response....it doesn't. Try letting off the brakes and gently rolling onto the throttle, not glacial-slow but not stomping. Find where you need to hold the pedal to keep that CVT at 5k RPMs all the way up to 55mph(or 65-70mph on a freeway), and it'll work much better for you.
 
So many of you still seem to be working under the assumption that just stomping on a CVT and holding it all the way to the floor gives the best response....it doesn't. Try letting off the brakes and gently rolling onto the throttle, not glacial-slow but not stomping. Find where you need to hold the pedal to keep that CVT at 5k RPMs all the way up to 55mph(or 65-70mph on a freeway), and it'll work much better for you.
I'll drag race you for a McDonald's ice cream cone!:D

I've noticed that if you do a 0-60 or quarter mile the 2nd and 3rd time you do them they are much faster than the first. It's like the computer recognizes you aren't going for fuel efficiency anymore and lets the throttle loosen up. With a running weight of 4200lbs:
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Edit: It used to be around 10 seconds for the 0-60.
 
Back when I went on the dragstrip, I didn't know about the roll-on or the 5k RPM so much, and got 17-second quarter miles at 80-82mph. With what I know now, I could probably cut at least a half-second off that time.
 
Rosso, I used to (street) drag my turbo Daytona Shelby edition. I know how to properly launch a car. Problem is, the Jeep is programmed to ease into it no matter what. You'll never experience it going balls to wall full acceleration until you hit over 2500 rpm. Yea, I know. Its a cruiser, not a racer, but sometimes you need to jump into traffic.
 
Rosso, I used to (street) drag my turbo Daytona Shelby edition. I know how to properly launch a car. Problem is, the Jeep is programmed to ease into it no matter what. You'll never experience it going balls to wall full acceleration until you hit over 2500 rpm. Yea, I know. Its a cruiser, not a racer, but sometimes you need to jump into traffic.
This, my wife's old Cruze 1.4L Turbo had the same transmission programming, it was designed to protect the tranny. You could try and brake boost from a stand still and it wouldn't do anything, no matter how hard you tried. Once it was flashed (both engine and transmission programming) you could launch like a bat out of hell.

Sadly the ecu is going to make sure nothing bad happens to the tranny, and it will never launch hard :mad:
 
I'm not saying it'll throw you back in your seat, but it can do pretty well for what it is. I've never had a problem getting up to speed and into traffic in mine.
 
Peppy 6 speed auto stick

I have the 6 speed auto stick,and I find my riot to be quite peppy even with the bigger heavier tires and wheels 9lbs. a corner heavier. Like RossoRacer says,I don't ram it to the boards and wait,if I do an acceleration test I roll into it then push 'er down. When I auto stick it through the gears it goes pretty darned good.

Let me put it this way when I leave a light I don't have anyone riding my rear end peed of that I am holding them up...quite the contrary in fact, when I leave a light,and look in the rear view mirror,I've pulled away substantially from the next vehicle either behind or beside....and I'm not trying to jack rabbit off of the light....just normal acceleration from a light.

It isn't very often that I max accelerate away from a light...because...well...it's a jeep...and......"you may be faster,but I can go anywhere"...is my mindset......no my riot is peppy enough,no complaints here.

Cheers,
Bill.
 
Yea, I found around 3k it starts to pick up. Im probably due for another ECU reset now that its warmer and we have summer blend fuel. I've noticed its gotten sluggish in the heat. One of these days I will get ahold of a used Centrifugal supercharger and mount it. Figure it cant hurt much at 5psi, but it would be a nice small boost in power.
 
Nah, forget the centrifugal superchargers and turbocharging, just do a Hellcat swap and silence the critics once and for all. lol!
 
Nah, forget the centrifugal superchargers and turbocharging, just do a Hellcat swap and silence the critics once and for all. lol!
The guys on Roadkill are now sponsored by Dodge and last episode they were talking about getting a Hellcat engine and putting it into one of their builds.

That is YouTube worth watching!

for anyone who hasn't picked up on them, go to YouTube and search up Roadkill
Do it when you have time to waste, half hour episodes and i always seem to watch at least two per visit. Major worthy builds and then general tomfoolery and various asshattery involved in breaking things and/or killing tires.

What a lot of us would do if we had money to burn.
 
The guys on Roadkill are now sponsored by Dodge and last episode they were talking about getting a Hellcat engine and putting it into one of their builds.

That is YouTube worth watching!

for anyone who hasn't picked up on them, go to YouTube and search up Roadkill
Do it when you have time to waste, half hour episodes and i always seem to watch at least two per visit. Major worthy builds and then general tomfoolery and various asshattery involved in breaking things and/or killing tires.

What a lot of us would do if we had money to burn.
RV Gocart! awesome episode!
 
Do you have the 2.0 or the 2.4?

I have a 2.0 manual and a 2.4 CVT (both FWD). The 2.4 CVT is definitely faster on acceleration. The 2.0 however does get better fuel economy by 1-2 mpg. Since we were making a long trip we took the 2.0 up north into the mountains this weekend and it had trouble maintaining speed on the long highway grades. Had to downshift. That was with a pretty empty vehicle except for Wifey and me. If we'd had a real load -- say a couple kids and luggage -- it probably would have been even more of a challenge.

With the 2.4/CVT, while not a dragster, it is certainly not a slow vehicle either -- I'd say about average for a CUV. I've only driven a 6spd auto once for a few hours as a loaner while Ignatz was in the shop and I do believe the CVT is better on acceleration, but not significantly.

Buying a Patriot you didn't get a dragster . . .

Back to your original question, I can't imagine how turning off traction control is going to affect acceleration. :confused: That only function if you're losing traction. You're not squealing away from the lights, are you?
It turns off the computer nanny controls so you don't loose traction and spin the tires under slick conditions.
 
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