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Decided to pull my plugs on my Patriot and replace them with some better ones.

What I noticed is that the gap was set at the following (.43/.42/.43/.41) and people wonder why we do our own maintenance.
I noticed the same thing when I pulled my factory plugs. When I removed them they ranged between .040 and .044.
 
Thanks for a great How-to post Schoat333!! The last time I had my plugs changed, I let the dealership do it and it cost me $81 which I thought was outrageous but $150-210 is just plain stealin! I bought some NGK iridiums and will give those a try since they have worked so well in my motorcycle, increasing power, throttle response and gas mileage (2-3 mpg's better). I'll report back to see how the iridiums do in the Pat.

Here is a video on NGK iridums:

If you want more power try the pulse plugs. At $14 each, they're not cheap but will give you noticeable power gains.
 
Those PowerSTAR plugs are way cool!!! Have you tried them on the Pat?
 
Yes, I have them in my Patriot now. Expensive but nice. I installed them in my Girlfriends Toyota Camry and she got another 1-2 mpg. My Patriot got about the same, runs great. I just had to try them. I believe the Company is in San Diego Ca.
 
Yes, I have them in my Patriot now. Expensive but nice. I installed them in my Girlfriends Toyota Camry and she got another 1-2 mpg. My Patriot got about the same, runs great. I just had to try them. I believe the Company is in San Diego Ca.
Nice! I just put in the NGK Iridiums and so far they feel great too! I noticed the smoother acceleration and better throttle response. I might have to try those for my next set. I noticed the company is based in my hood. I might pop in to have a chat with them.

I couldn't believe how easy it was to change the plugs on these Pat's.
 
the closest place to me to buy spark plugs is the jeep dealership.

bought the mopar sparkplugs. The same ones they put in your jeep at the 30k & 60k services. The Mopar ones are the NGK R plugs.
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Soon as I got them home the gap check showed the new plugs are pregapped @ .032
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called the jeep service dept and asked the mechanic and he said they re-gap them for .050 whenever they put them in patriots !

The old ones I took out happen to be the exact same plugs but they are gapped for .052
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so the original mopar gap is .032... previously install plugs were gapped at .052... so i went in the middle and re-gapped at .045 based on a few previous posts, installed, started engine, sounds about the same as it did.

somebody tell me is this isn't good otherwise this is how I'll roll.
 
Thanks for the info, going to change mine myself very soon.

Called the dealer just to see what they charge for a spark plug change...wait for it...$210!!!
that's almost as bad as my local dealer wanting $65, yes, $65 to program a spare key when the process takes 5 minutes and can be done from within the drivers seat using the procedure in the owners manual.
 
Just changed the plugs in my Pat @ 28,687 miles as the dealership mentioned it today while I was there for an oil change. I asked what they charged and they quoted me $179.99. How ridiculous, I changed them in about 15 minutes and spent just over 12 bucks on the oem champion plugs, the dielectric grease, and anti seize. I checked the gap on my old plugs and they were all between .52 and .55. I set the new gap at .44. So far from only idling in the driveway I can tell a noticeable difference with vibration while in drive. Before when in drive and stopped I could feel vibrations everywhere (steering wheel, brake pedal, arm rest,etc..) now, not so much. Maybe this will help improve my fuel mileage, when I filled up today I calculated 21.71 mpg. That entire tank however was interstate driving and 70~ miles were pulling a small utility trailer with ~1000lbs.


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I've noticed a lot of people changing them out at lower mileage. IIRC Jeep recommends 60,000 miles? I'm sitting at just over 50,000 miles with originals and thinking of changing them next weekend. It's stumbling on cold start and noticed a lack of power. I've heard of these issues with the CVT but not the 5 speed.
 
I've noticed a lot of people changing them out at lower mileage. IIRC Jeep recommends 60,000 miles? I'm sitting at just over 50,000 miles with originals and thinking of changing them next weekend. It's stumbling on cold start and noticed a lack of power. I've heard of these issues with the CVT but not the 5 speed.
The manual says to change them at 30,000-32,000 miles because they are copper plugs

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I always get rotation, oil change + other services at Big O tires because the service bays are above ground & you can then see the work being done.
At the Jeep dealer you bring in your vehicle & have to wait in a lounge.
I just don't trust auto shops. I insist on viewing what's being done.
 
Wow! I feel stupid as I didn't realize you ought to change the plugs at 30,000 miles as I am use to 50,000 or so!

Thanks for the well written article. I have a 2009 with the 2.0 motor so I am thinking about getting it done ASAP.

Any thoughts about types of plugs?

Thanks in advance.
dont feel bad. 74,000 here. got a check engine light. Hoping it is telling me to change the plugs :p. I seen my milage get lower but that is because I am mostly in stop and go traffic and very little highway use.
 
May as well add this here...

Just changed the plugs in my 2011 yesterday. They only had 18,900 miles on them but due to the scheduled maintenance in the Owner's Manual specifying 24 months or 30,000( whichever comes 1st )I decided to do it just to keep Chrysler happy should I ever need my factory warranty/extended warranty. I don't get time frames for plugs though? Certainly not 24 months? They are not like fluids. Should be miles only( and usually is )but again as they specify 24 months, and later this month is 2 years for me, I figured I would do it as they are so easy. 30K is the proper time for copper core plug replacement not 24 months. :doh:

Have to say despite being a coil on design( can be a pain on some vehicles )this has to be one of the easiest plug changes EVER! Even having never done the plugs on a Patriot it took me less than 10 minutes to actually do it. 20 minutes tops start to finish with everything put away and the hood closed. Very easy. :smiley_thumbs_up:

I would make a note that while checking for a tool list in the thread earlier, so I knew what was needed before starting, I saw mention of a 6" extension. While 6" would work I recommend an 8". 8" is the perfect size for this job.

Anyway, the plugs came out with ease and even the coils pulled off without any hassle. I figure it is due to the early change. Everything went back in slick and easy. I didn't use any anti-seize on the threads seeing as I have to pull them every 2 years. I generally only use that stuff when the plugs are going to be in for years and 50K+. Used dielectric grease in the coil boots though.

After checking the gap on the new plugs and finding them all preset to .043-.044 as needed the new plugs went in like a charm using the 8" extension with the spark plug socket. Using fuel line as mentioned earlier is a great old school trick if your socket doesn't have the little rubber insert to hold the plug.

Worse part of the whole job is tightening the new plugs down. My torque wrench bit the dust a couple years ago and I haven't replaced it yet. I always hate snugging new plugs in by "feel". Especially because you have to go past that crush washer. Anyway, got them tight then gave approx 1/2 turn and stopped.

Jeep runs good but it did before so didn't expect any change. I was very pleased however with how good the old plugs looked. Very clean with no build up at all. There is definitely a benefit to running Top Tier fuels and using fuel treatments to help keep the fuel system and combustion chamber clean.

Gaps on the OEM/old plugs ranged from .045-.048 so they had plenty of life left as would be expected after only being in 19K.

This is a very easy job so even the most unskilled( mechanically )owner can do it. The 2 things to be careful of are not over tightening the new plugs( strip the threads )and/or the coil screw( crack the plastic coil housing ).

NOTE - Don't pay someone to do this unless you truly are horrible at this stuff. I asked the dealer how much to do it( labor )just to see and they said an hour which is $100. My dealer is great and is always fair but $100 to change these plugs is just crazy. Takes less time than an oil change. Cost me $11 for the plugs and dielectric grease and 20 minutes out of my day. I don't do much wrenching these days but this was something I had to do myself from a financial standpoint. Just can't justify $100 for it. $50 maybe.



 
I used my 2004 F-150 from the day I bought it as a work truck to tow about 3,500-4,000 lbs on a daily basis. I kept the original plugs for close to 110,000 miles without a problem. :pepper: They still worked fine with that many miles on them but I figured that I had gotten more than my fair share of usage out of them.

They just don't make 'em like they used to. Haha
 
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