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I was checking the 2011 Patriot owners manual and noticed that the new Pats come with the PSX24W fog light bulbs. I get the fact that they are more energy efficient and what not but I'd rather the standard halogen bulbs be easier to find/buy and replace/upgrade than have them "last for 8000 hrs" (according to Philips automotive lighting). Philips also states that the PSX24W can be used to replace the 55watt H3 bulb. Do you guys think the H3 can be used to replace the PSX24W in order to do a fog light upgrade? I don't know why they couldn't just stick with the H10 (9145) fog lights of previous years....IMO if it ain't broke, don't fix it!
 
Seems the Dodge Journey switched...er, I mean upgraded to this bulb in 2010. Apparently it allows them to use a very cheap...er, I mean light weight fog lense assembly. This means no glass lenses or metal reflectors to take the heat...oops, there I go again...I mean the new light weight assembly uses less power and is more efficient.

So while you may be able to put the old bulb back in, it might melt your fog light...dang...I mean you'll be using more power...which makes you an evil CO2 producer...or something.
 
Also becareful because my new 2011 Dakota also has these for fog lights and the fog light lenses are plastic. MY research shows some people replacing the PSX24W with H16 9009 5202 but becareful because those plastic lenses acan melt. I replaced mine with some h16 35w yellow and I m still a little nervous.
 
Seems the Dodge Journey switched...er, I mean upgraded to this bulb in 2010. Apparently it allows them to use a very cheap...er, I mean light weight fog lense assembly. This means no glass lenses or metal reflectors to take the heat...oops, there I go again...I mean the new light weight assembly uses less power and is more efficient.

So while you may be able to put the old bulb back in, it might melt your fog light...dang...I mean you'll be using more power...which makes you an evil CO2 producer...or something.
I wonder how hard or expensive it would be to fit the 2010 fog lights into the 2011's spot. No wonder all US 2011's come standard with fog lights.... they are spending the same amount as before, but more people are getting "fog lights"
 
Any more thoughts on this subject? I am finding these 2011 fog lights to be weak sauce compared to the useful fog/cornering lights on my now-traded '04 Grand Cherokee. Can the entire assembly be replaced with 2010 Patriot compatible hardware made with glass instead of plastic?
 
Does anyone know the actual Lumen output of these LED foglight replacements? As near as I can tell, the original weak 24w halogens still exceed the LED replacements. I can't seem to find the output rating for the 68 SMD LED bulbs though.
 
I just noticed that link in the other thread for the $90 SMD LED replacements does specify a LUMEN output of 400. This does not compare favorably to the 500 lumen output of the typical PSX24w halogen bulb used on the 2011 Patriot fogs, and is downright terrible compared to the 900 lumen output of the earlier model year Patriot fogs.

http://www.v-leds.com/V-LEDS-6K-HID-WHITE-28-p8701564-3-2.html
 
psx24w

if you goto a dealership and buy this light its $45.00 each. search psx24w on eBay and you can get a set for $14.00 and they're very powerful led lights. dont get the 18 smd bulb. get 36 or better. they are considerably brighter than the stock halogen bulb.
 
Also becareful because my new 2011 Dakota also has these for fog lights and the fog light lenses are plastic. MY research shows some people replacing the PSX24W with H16 9009 5202 but becareful because those plastic lenses acan melt. I replaced mine with some h16 35w yellow and I m still a little nervous.
How is this working for ya? Im thinking about replacing mine with a 35w Hid kit.
 
Do HID or LED, you'll never look back.
 
HID's run near cool in comparison to halogens.
 
That's what I was thinking. So it would prolly be as much heat as the 24W are putting out, maybe even 30w. I just know this halogen light s h i t ain't cuttn it for me, after having HIDs.
I've felt the housings on my car and truck and both the headlights and fogs (one plastic housing one glass) are cool to the touch. The only time the lack of heat sucks is in winter when there is not enough heat generated (like the halogens did) to melt snow/ice that gets on the housings.
 
I had H11 in my Nissan Xterra with plastic lens and they never melted….. I now have a 2014 Dodge Journey and I want to replace the crappy PSX24W fog lamps with a PIAA H7, anyone out there think it will melt the plastic lens?
 
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