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My 2007 Jeep Patriot AC is not blowing cold air. Compressor does not engage but I’m not able to increase enough Freon pressure so that the compressor kicks. I want to relay bypass it to know if the compressor is good or not but I don’t know how. Any help would be appreciated.
 
There's no relay for the A/C compressor, the compressor's internal solenoid is driven by the PCM.

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Note that the compressor uses engine bay ground G110, a known source of ground related problems due to corrosion of the wires under the eyelet crimp and insulation where they can't be seen. The fix is to cut the old eyelet off, strip the wires back to good metal, and add a new eyelet.

 
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There's no relay for the A/C compressor, the compressor's internal solenoid is driven by the PCM.

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Note that the compressor uses engine bay ground G110, a known source of ground related problems due to corrosion of the wires under the eyelet crimp and insulation where they can't be seen. The fix is to cut the old eyelet off, strip the wires back to good metal, and add a new eyelet.

But how can I tell that this is the actual problem?
I just don’t want to do something and make it a bigger problem.
 
You could try bypassing the pressure switch temporarily or apply 12 volts right to the compressor. I would also try turning the compressor by hand by turning the outer clutch plate face (engine off). It should turn freely.
 
You will need some smaller alligator clamp style test wires. Unplug the compressor wire, then carefully clamp each pin in the compressor connector and extend the wires to the battery. Then with the engine off initially, touch them to the battery posts briefly and confirm the clutch is clicking. Start the engine and repeat while watching the compressor to make sure the outer plate pulls in and spins with the pulley. If it does, only let it run for a little to see if it starts cooling the air.
<edit> As we've recently discovered from another thread, Patriots don't use a traditional pulley clutch, but instead a variable swash plate solenoid, but the test would be the same. Apply 12v to it to full send the compressor and you should still hear it clicking when engine is off. The wire is towards the back of the compressor.
 
You will need some smaller alligator clamp style test wires. Unplug the compressor wire, then carefully clamp each pin in the compressor connector and extend the wires to the battery. Then with the engine off initially, touch them to the battery posts briefly and confirm the clutch is clicking. Start the engine and repeat while watching the compressor to make sure the outer plate pulls in and spins with the pulley. If it does, only let it run for a little to see if it starts cooling the air.
What about AC Fan not working. Checked fuses and 3 Relays. Nothing. Run 12v to fans and they will run. HELP please 07 Patriot 2.4
 
What about AC Fan not working. Checked fuses and 3 Relays. Nothing. Run 12v to fans and they will run. HELP please 07 Patriot 2.4
Get a bi-directional scan tool like AlfaOBD, jscan, etc. that will let you turn the fans on and off (and other things too, like the A/C compressor duty cycle control / swash plate) through the CANBus.

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Then you'll know if the fan driver circuit is working properly or if it needs repair, or if it's a problem with the inputs from the temp sensors, etc. causing the fans not to be turned on.
 
Get a bi-directional scan tool like AlfaOBD, jscan, etc. that will let you turn the fans on and off (and other things too, like the A/C compressor duty cycle control / swash plate) through the CANBus.

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Then you'll know if the fan driver circuit is working properly or if it needs repair, or if it's a problem with the inputs from the temp sensors, etc. causing the fans not to be turned on.
Sandstone, thanks fir advice. Now this4" long plastic piece with screens on it is suppose to go inside of AC lines but cannot seem to find where the old one is located. Any Ideas? Thanks
 
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