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So I have an opportunity to cash in on my mopar lifetime warranty to the tune of getting $3k towards the purchase of a new dodge/jeep/fiat vehicle. I am having my eye on a jeep wrangler. 4x4.


they seem to get decent mpgs- not much less than the patriot.
i can get a new 8 year warranty out to 125,000 miles for less than 2k. I paid 2200 for my lifetime warranty on the patriot.

so now i am trying to determine a few things:

1) maintenance-
how are the :
a)spark plugs
b)fluids like diffs and xfer case and transmission
c)other?
as compared to the patriot?
the patriot is all simple easy except for the 6spd auto trans that i have- may have dealer due that but not for a while as i have 36,000 miles on her.

2)quality-
the patriot was the most reliable jeep when it was in production- at least towards the end.
how do the new wranglers compare? any known glaring issues?
i have signed up for the JL forums but haven't gotten approval yet but will ask in there once I do.

3)best config for a simple man for maint, like me-
seems that they only have one config i am interested in when it comes to engine and trans-
the gas v6 with 8spd auto- they have 2 different 8 speeds but one seems to match the gas v6.

i want to stay away from diesels and gas turbos.
i also want the automatic trans.
i can drive a stick and have for years BUT auto is so much nicer for the way i drive my offroad vehicles.


i can sell my 2017 pat for like 14k to carvana.
the dealer will prolly low ball me at first and i don't think they will match carvana though they may.
that 14k plus 3k for the mopar warranty thing is 17k towards the new jeep. i'd oweabout 25k on the one i am looking at.
i can write a check for that and be done.

I do like my patriot. it does all i need it to do. it's reliable, cheap to maintain and easy. decent mpgs. it' sjust not as "cool" as the wrangler and nit as capable- i use the capability of a true 4x4 once a year or two at gnarly beaches. the pat could prolly do that but i haven't tested her yet on the local beaches.

what would you all do?
keep the patriot and jsut make her more mine without affecting warranty.
or
trade that sucker in and take the extra 3k, and buy the 8 year warranty along with it??
 
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i've decided not to go the wrangler route. i'ts v6/v4 NO turbo and no diesel OR nothing. So it's nothing. I may look at the compass. they seem to have some capability in the trailhawk version. But i don't know. if it ain't broke, don't fix it. LOL
 
We just added a Wrangler to our stable. It's nice, but I really miss our 2011 Wrangler. I wish we hadn't sold it. Deep, deep regret; I feel like crying. :cry: The new Wrangler is just too complex to be fun.

We've only got 1800 miles on the Wrangler and so far it's averaged 21MPG. Our Patriot (Bullwinkle) over its life has averaged 31MPG, and eeks out 35 on a long easy trip. The Wrangler won't come close to those numbers.

We also have a 2019 Compass. It is as comfortable as our Patriot and great on gas: 31.6MPG average in 50,000 miles.

Our 2.0 5-spd FWD Patriot with 150,000 is my favorite of the three, next down is the Compass, and last is the Wrangler. Wife wanted a Wrangler so we got one.

They wouldn't give us diddly squat for our Patriot so I kept it. Frankly I'd want ~$8000 for it. So far no significant repairs, but I wonder about the tranny. No symptoms, just being at 150,000 makes me think about it. I'd sooner put the money into the tranny than trade it. No question.

No way I'd put money out for a 125,000 mile warranty. If I have significant trouble before that they've lost a customer.

If I was you I'd baby my Patriot. That's what I'm doing. Well, maybe I don't baby it, it pulls my trailer when I need it to. That was another reason for keeping the Patriot -- it's got a hitch. That and I've still got two sets of tires to wear out. I'm keeping Bullwinkle going for a while yet! (y)
 
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We just added a Wrangler to our stable. It's nice, but I really miss our 2011 Wrangler. I wish we hadn't sold it. Deep, deep regret; I feel like crying. :cry: The new Wrangler is just too complex to be fun.

We've only got 1800 miles on the Wrangler and so far it's averaged 21MPG. Our Patriot (Bullwinkle) over its life has averaged 31MPG, and eeks out 35 on a long easy trip. The Wrangler won't come close to those numbers.

We also have a 2019 Compass. It is as comfortable as our Patriot and great on gas: 31.6MPG average in 50,000 miles.

Our 2.0 5-spd FWD Patriot with 150,000 is my favorite of the three, next down is the Compass, and last is the Wrangler. Wife wanted a Wrangler so we got one.

They wouldn't give us diddly squat for our Patriot so I kept it. Frankly I'd want ~$8000 for it. So far no significant repairs, but I wonder about the tranny. No symptoms, just being at 150,000 makes me think about it. I'd sooner put the money into the tranny than trade it. No question.

No way I'd put money out for a 125,000 mile warranty. If I have significant trouble before that they've lost a customer.

If I was you I'd baby my Patriot. That's what I'm doing. Well, maybe I don't baby it, it pulls my trailer when I need it to. That was another reason for keeping the Patriot -- it's got a hitch. That and I've still got two sets of tires to wear out. I'm keeping Bullwinkle going for a while yet! (y)
i baby it anyhow as far as maintenance and i don't do anything extreme as far as offroad. just gravel mountain roads slow and the occasional snow drive. i am seriously considering having the dealer swap out the trans fluid well before the 60k mile interval for the 6spd auto. Just to keep it going well.
 
We just added a Wrangler to our stable. It's nice, but I really miss our 2011 Wrangler. I wish we hadn't sold it. Deep, deep regret; I feel like crying. :cry: The new Wrangler is just too complex to be fun....
A friend of mine has a Wrangler with the 2.0 Hurricane eTorque. It performs well, but like you said complex. If something electronic goes out, it's harder to fix on the trail, and new parts might be on back order:

 
A friend of mine has a Wrangler with the 2.0 Hurricane eTorque. It performs well, but like you said complex. If something electronic goes out, it's harder to fix on the trail . . .
Yeah. We just got a recall for a software update . . . for the CLUTCH! What's software got to do with a clutch???
 
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