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So if a Chinese company buys Jeep, would you still buy a Jeep?
So if a Chinese company buys Jeep, would you still buy a Jeep?
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So if a Chinese company buys Jeep, would you still buy a Jeep?
So if a Chinese company buys Jeep, would you still buy a Jeep?
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What I don't get is why FCA wants to sell jeep? I would understand if it was hemorrhaging money, BUT at this point, its like the only part of FCA actually making money...
To answer your question, Maybe? it depends on where its built.
Would I buy a jeep made in america by a chinese company? sure why not. its not like china doesn't already own 2/3rds of the US as it is. and right now FCA is owned by an Italian company, and a portion of their products are made in Italy as it is... so its not like that part would change.
Would I buy a chinese build jeep? No. Absolutely not.
Would I buy a jeep made in korea, japan, germany, belgium, The UK, etc? maybe? probably at some point, after they've proven their reliability.
To answer your question, Maybe? it depends on where its built.
Would I buy a jeep made in america by a chinese company? sure why not. its not like china doesn't already own 2/3rds of the US as it is. and right now FCA is owned by an Italian company, and a portion of their products are made in Italy as it is... so its not like that part would change.
Would I buy a chinese build jeep? No. Absolutely not.
Would I buy a jeep made in korea, japan, germany, belgium, The UK, etc? maybe? probably at some point, after they've proven their reliability.
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Every Jeep for years now is a multi ethnic national bastard child anyways. In every Patriot are parts made in and from dozens if not more countries. At this point automakers have no national loyalty and of pure national origin aside from more than likely some small obscure automaker in a 3rd world country. Our modern corporate values and lust for profits over all have put a demise on auto manufacturing of the past.
AIC, you've got a point. FCA bought Chrysler to get a foot in the US market. The Chrysler and Dodge brands can't survive on minivans alone and Fiat sales are laughable. So if they sell Jeep and what have they got left? Its like selling your house with no place to live.
Croat, your commentary is unfortunately accurate. Why pay US wages when we can pay peanuts to foreigners to build cars they can't afford to buy themselves? Didn't Henry Ford say something to the effect of wanting his employees to earn enough to be able to be customers too?
Answering my own question, yes I would continue to buy Jeep, mostly out of loyalty to my local dealer. But not if they weren't building them in this country. I don't mind buying things from Canada and Mexico because they're our neighbors, but when companies go all around the world shopping for cheap labor, they're fully intent on exploiting them. I don't know about Canada, but I recently learned that Mexican autoworkers are paid about 10% of US wages -- that's just exploitation of our neighbors.
Croat, your commentary is unfortunately accurate. Why pay US wages when we can pay peanuts to foreigners to build cars they can't afford to buy themselves? Didn't Henry Ford say something to the effect of wanting his employees to earn enough to be able to be customers too?
Answering my own question, yes I would continue to buy Jeep, mostly out of loyalty to my local dealer. But not if they weren't building them in this country. I don't mind buying things from Canada and Mexico because they're our neighbors, but when companies go all around the world shopping for cheap labor, they're fully intent on exploiting them. I don't know about Canada, but I recently learned that Mexican autoworkers are paid about 10% of US wages -- that's just exploitation of our neighbors.
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Some chinese cars are made in the US not China. Interesting decision to make if time comes?
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I'll be perfectly honest. I probably won't own a jeep for a long time. I have 4 kids, If I buy a larger car, its got to fit at least 6 people in it. Jeep doesn't have that. I don't have brand loyalty, (well I did, but that company went bust, so yeah...), I buy the car that fits my needs the closest. I shy away from a lot of chinese stuff I want to last, but then there are brands, like Lenovo's Thinkpad line, that are made in china, but are of higher quality than your typical product. So maybe. Croat is right, half the parts are made there anyways. I wouldn't buy the first ones off the boat, that's for sure.
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I wish jeep made an AFFORDABLE 7 passenger off road suv. Not this BS they are coming out with that is supposed to cost 70k.
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Seriously... I try to find any 7 passenger vehicle under $35k, and actually on the lot they tend to be $40k+ new. Its insane. How dare you have a family of more than two kids, we'll punish you by charging insane prices for cars!
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There is always the minivan. Used ones you can get with less than 50k miles for $10k. I can only have 2 vehicles for my family. If I get a minivan and an off road SUV then I won't have anything with good mpg too commute with. I'd really like to have an off road 7 passenger suv and an electric vehicle. The problem is nobody makes a good 7 passenger affordable suv. The commander is what comes to mind but it wasn't very good and got horrible mpg. I wish they made the dodge durango with the same off road package as the grand cherokee.
Another thing is I was hoping to get a new "used" vehicle sometime next year with lower used car prices due to all the 3 year leases expiring. I hear since the hurricane harvey, used car prices are going to skyrocket.
Guess I am stuck with the patriot and an accent. They aren't terrible but not quite what I am looking for which is a bigger suv for off roading and a electric vehicle for city driving.
I still can't believe jeep is supposed to make a 7 passenger vehicle with the same price tag to compete with high end landrovers and land cruisers.... They probably won't sell much
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I was thinking of new, not used, unless you go with a BASE dodge caravan, you're looking at 30k, for a new car. We buy used. I am hoping that Ford's Everest based bronco is a hit, sells in big numbers and has terrible resale value, so I can pick up a lightly used one cheap(ish) in about 2-3 years when our Ford Flex is ready to be replaced (bought used, have had it 2 years) with something more off road capable, and the kids are bigger. I can take the older 3 now in my truck, but in a couple of years, the'll be too big, and the baby will be old enough to come with us, and of course the wife will want to go too.There is always the minivan. Used ones you can get with less than 50k miles for $10k. I can only have 2 vehicles for my family. If I get a minivan and an off road SUV then I won't have anything with good mpg too commute with. I'd really like to have an off road 7 passenger suv and an electric vehicle. The problem is nobody makes a good 7 passenger affordable suv. The commander is what comes to mind but it wasn't very good and got horrible mpg. I wish they made the dodge durango with the same off road package as the grand cherokee.
Another thing is I was hoping to get a new "used" vehicle sometime next year with lower used car prices due to all the 3 year leases expiring. I hear since the hurricane harvey, used car prices are going to skyrocket.
Guess I am stuck with the patriot and an accent. They aren't terrible but not quite what I am looking for which is a bigger suv for off roading and a electric vehicle for city driving.
I still can't believe jeep is supposed to make a 7 passenger vehicle with the same price tag to compete with high end landrovers and land cruisers.... They probably won't sell much
Sorry I know this is totally off topic from the original, discussion, but its something that makes me so mad. There just are not any off road capable 4x4's that hold 7 people for a reasonable amount of money new.
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I understand the perspective of its its not made in usa than its junk. My grandfather used to state that as I remember back in the 1980's and 1990's and he was born in 1918.
Now a days companies go to where they get the best deals. Most of our computer stuff comes from china, cabinets , shelves, and household items. are they less durable than the 1950's ? sure. They also cost less.
I do like the fact Jeep is "American" . As someone said many of the parts in our patriot are not american made, yes?
I dont have an issue buying a Jeep if the price is right, good quality, and its what I want.
why wouldn't I, I bought my computer, my clothes, my house, which are made from materials from another country. God bless everyone
Now a days companies go to where they get the best deals. Most of our computer stuff comes from china, cabinets , shelves, and household items. are they less durable than the 1950's ? sure. They also cost less.
I do like the fact Jeep is "American" . As someone said many of the parts in our patriot are not american made, yes?
I dont have an issue buying a Jeep if the price is right, good quality, and its what I want.
why wouldn't I, I bought my computer, my clothes, my house, which are made from materials from another country. God bless everyone
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I follow bloggers (one is from america, the other from south africa) who have lived in china for almost a decade, They have talked about chinese cars, and how chinese made cars are of very very poor build quality. Even chinese made VWs, BMWs, etc. are far below quality standards outside of china. that is what I base my opinion on. Like I said, I own a half dozen lenovo laptops, chinese company, chinese made product that are quite good. (their consumer line is not though...) So yeah, just like Kia/Hyundai of the late 80's early 90's they have quite a bit of growing up to do before I would consider buying a car from them. A car is a much bigger investment and expense and something I rely on far more than than say, a shirt, or a a blender.
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I will throw in, there are vehicles mostly American made. The MK has 77-78% USA made parts. I believe the Honda Accord and a few other vehicles have, to the shame of Jeep and the Big Three, 100% USA made content.
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Isn't tesla completely made in the US?
I was thinking the opposite. There's gonna be a million cars from Texas that spent a week underwater. Dry 'em out and sell 'em up north. "Southern car! No rust! (yet)." Then we'll have this website flooded with electrical problems.I hear since the hurricane harvey, used car prices are going to skyrocket.
I'm sure those cars aren't going to the junkyards.
On the positive side, used parts availability should be pretty strong for awhile.
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I think I may have heard that, though I can't say for sure. Tucker '48s were though.
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I Would not buy another Chrysler product!
Because the ownership is Italian, potentially Chinese, or you just don't like your Patriot?
Myself, I'd seriously consider a lightly used Patriot before I'd go for anything new from anybody.
Nope last 3 Jeeps I have owned or someone I know have owned are crap. 2008 Jeep Patriot .. rusted out chassis bolts, front end parts that wear out pre maturely . 2010 jeep Liberty Sky Slider problem. 2010 Jeep Patriot rusted out subframe , worn out front end parts , worn out rear end suspension parts .. Last good Jeep I had was my 1999 Wrangler lol
You realize, of course, that FCA is fixing the sub-frames under an extended warranty . . .
I've had better luck than you. Altogether 9 Jeeps -- 2 AMC, 5 Chrysler, 2 FCA. All but one ('93 Cherokee) have been fine. A better dealer might have made me happy with that one.
My 2008 just passed inspection yesterday; the factory shocks are starting to leak but passed. Considering the kind of roads I travel, their longevity is remarkable.
So, back to the point of this thread, do you think Chinese management would produce a better Jeep?
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