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Does your patriot shake when in drive with the brakes applied? (Not moving)

  • Yes, my patriot shakes

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  • No, it's smooth.

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Since my '14 is going back to the dealer for the third time to attempt to solve this vibration that it seems a lot of people have, I figured I'd toss up a poll. (Ironically the '15 rental patriot I have shakes worse than my 14.)

So how many of you have Patriots that vibrate/shake in drive when sitting at light/stopped?
 
My motor mounts were replaced, it came back within a week. They also replaced the torque converter.
If it went away initially after the mounts were replaced, I wonder if filling the voids in the mounts with window weld would help.
 
Mine is worse if the air conditioner is running.
 
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if thats the case, check your pulleys, alternator, AC, waterpump,
AC could be putting a load on them that makes them vibrate worse
Mine is worse with the AC running as well, and the dealer tested all pulleys, alternator, ac condensor etc. It's worse because of the extra load on the engine at such a low RPM.

The reality is this, it idles stupid low, (600ish rpm when warm?) plus our torque converters are very tight to help with fuel economy. It's my opinion those two things cause it. For them to not shake apart I'm guessing they have a pretty big counterbalance on the crank. I asked the dealer if they could raise the idle a little via computer to see if it helps, but they claim they can't.
 
Mine is worse with the AC running as well, and the dealer tested all pulleys, alternator, ac condensor etc. It's worse because of the extra load on the engine at such a low RPM.

The reality is this, it idles stupid low, (600ish rpm when warm?) plus our torque converters are very tight to help with fuel economy. It's my opinion those two things cause it. For them to not shake apart I'm guessing they have a pretty big counterbalance on the crank. I asked the dealer if they could raise the idle a little via computer to see if it helps, but they claim they can't.
sometimes tough to diagnose,
when i was getting a rattle, sounded like valves or timing chain,
dealer had a hard time pinning it down,
all pulleys checked out fine,
rattle only occurred under load,
dealer took each pulley out, with process of elimination swapping each with a known good pulley in the shop, they narrowed it down to the alternator,
even when removed pulley seemed fine, couldnt tell it was the cause,
but under load it was failing,
took quite some work to diagnose but they did it,
also while he was in there they replaced my water pump under warranty,
did so , so they could put the extra labor hours under warranty work, and i only paid for 1 hr labor and part cost for alternator
 
I did an experiment yesterday, I was stopped at a red light, air conditioner running, felt the shake when just idling. I pressed the brake to the floor and gave it a very little bit of gas. With the engine sitting at about 1,000 RPMs, everything was perfectly smooth, no vibrations at all.

So, this to me would say that the vibrations some are experiencing is due to the low idle of our Patriot engines.
 
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That's exactly my thought too, I asked the dealer if they could just raise my idle a little. (even 50 or 100 rpm) and see if it smooths at all, they claim they can't with their software. Wish we could tune these, I could do that in 5 minutes with my Saabaru.
 
That's exactly my thought too, I asked the dealer if they could just raise my idle a little. (even 50 or 100 rpm) and see if it smooths at all, they claim they can't with their software. Wish we could tune these, I could do that in 5 minutes with my Saabaru.
Yeah, it was smooth all the way down to the 800-900 RPM range.
 
Mine does this as well. I have found that if it I put it into Nuetral and then back into Drive, the vibration lessens significantly. Mine only seems to do it after running at constant RPM for an extended period. Example.... Driving on the highway at a constant speed, take an exit ramp and get to a stop light. At the light is will shake. If I click the shifter into Nuetral and then back into Drive it pretty much goes away. Mine has been this way pretty much since new, and when I mentioned it to the dealer during a CVT service appointment, I was told that several people have brought it up, but Chrysler says it's normal operation, and they won't mess with just for that.
 
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I have a 2014 patriot with 8150 k and it vibrates every time I come to a stop I was told by a motor rebuilder that its your harmonic bellancer there is nothing we can do to get them it fix it because they are not willing to do what it take to fix
 
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