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I drive about 40 miles to work - one way (about 22 on dirt and 18 on pavement). The concept of gravel around here consists of lots of volcanic rock that is very sharp. In some places there are areas of rocks that stick up in the road like little daggers - but there is no way to avoid it.

In the last three weeks of driving the Jeep Patriot I have had 4 flat tires - not just low, but FLAT.Right now I have the tires that were on the Jeep when I got it last July. 215/65R17 Goodyear Wrangler SR-A

I need to do something to make this better, I can't avoid the road so I need to look for new tires?. Any suggestions would be great - I am not exactly tire savvy...
 
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Sounds to me like a good set of all-terrain tires might be in order? Yokohama G012 seems to be popular in this forum. Haven't really looked at the issue from the "what tire has the strongest side wall"-angle though.
 
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Are the holes more on the sidewall or the tread part of the tire?

You're about the only person I'd recommend the BFG AT to. Expect a fuel economy and performance hit.

Do those tire warranties include this type of damage? If so, then, I'd just get some other better all terrain tires (not the BFG) and use the warranty as needed.
 
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The flats are all caused by objects in the tread area of the tire: rocks, nails... you name it. None of the flats have been caused by damage to the sidewall.

For the BFGoodrich T/A KO is this the size you would use? (225/70R17)

For the suggestions to get an all-terrain tire, i do not specifically find anything at all (tirerack.com) in size 215/65R17. Would I use the 225 for any of them?
 
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Do other cars use this road? I would say those are the people to talk to. How do they solve the problem? Finding a tire that will deal with rocks and sticks is one thing, but nails, glass, and other garbage is a totally different animal. You may need to explore the "run flats" like Harbor suggested.
 
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I've got the exact same problem with the SR-A's, just not as severe as I only drive sharp rocky roads in the summer weekends. Two flats last summer, when the last 8 years driving the same roads on Michelin LTX yielded 0 flats.

I think the

You can't get the BFG's in a 17" size, so I've gone with buying 16" rims and will be getting 235/70-16 BFG A/T's. This is the biggest size that'll fit without rubbing the wheel wells.
 
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APT said:
Are the holes more on the sidewall or the tread part of the tire?

You're about the only person I'd recommend the BFG AT to. Expect a fuel economy and performance hit.

Do those tire warranties include this type of damage? If so, then, I'd just get some other better all terrain tires (not the BFG) and use the warranty as needed.
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I have used BFG AT tired before on my trucks. They are a hard tread, great for off roading. They can be very loud on pavement. The faster you go, the louder they are. After a while of pavement driving, they will wear flat. At least on a rear wheel drive truck (4x4 when not locked in), they can be slippery on wet pavement.

Another downside to AT tires, they usually have little to no warranty. They expect you to be off-road with a AT tire. They expect you to run over stumps, rocks, sticks, logs, etc. Therefor they don't offer much of a warranty.

I would see what tires other people who drive that road use.

- Dan M
 
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run flats would be useless i think because the tire will still lose its air and like eventually he would still have to fix it. get solid rubber tires :p

also if u get tire with a aggressive tread, u could get big rocks stuck in the tread blocks and they'll shoot up and damage the wheel wells and under body and it wont be pretty, especially if the tires stick out on the sides, then you will also be damaging fenders and doors.
 
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APT said:
You're about the only person I'd recommend the BFG AT to. Expect a fuel economy and performance hit.
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OMG!!! go figure.....I get rid of my Jeep and my 17" alloys and NOW BFG comes out with an "A/T" for me. BASTARDS! :mad:

It's a 'no brainer' from where I see it.....go with the BFG A/T's in the 225/70R17's. I had the 225/75R16's M/T's on my Compass and while they were a bit noisy, didn't really see much diff in fuel mileage. The A/T's will not only be fairly quiet, but have a great ride and have a much stronger construction than the SR-A's. :smiley_thumbs_up:

You're sooooo lucky to have that as an option now. Hell, if I had that as an option, who knows.....I may still have my MK! :doh:
 
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Tire OCD

ames 1584

So I keep a word document of possible tire options for my Patriot. My requirements are these, it must fit my stock 17 inch FDI without rubbing and without worrying about offsets or backspacing.

As anyone in this situation can attest, the options are limited for an all terrain tire that fits these parameters. It for sure means going with a larger tire. Here are the tires that I have come up with in each size.

In some instances I have included weight (#) and cost (te = tireeasy.com, tr = tirerack.com and ls = lesschwab.com)

225/65-17 Yokohama Geolandar A/T-S #31 $140(te) $132(tr), Pirelli Scorpion ATR #31, Firestone Destination LE, Goodyear Fortera TripleTred
235/60-17 Toyo OPEN COUNTRY A/T $144(te)
235/65-17 Yokohama Geolandar A/T-S #33, Pirelli Scorpion ATR #38, Bridgestone Dueler A/T Revo #31 $167(te) $160(tr), Toyo OPEN COUNTRY A/T $176.00 (ls) $148(te), Multi-mile Wild Country XTX Sport $192.00 (ls) $153 (te)
*note some people have reported mild rubbing with this size.

This size is questionable as to weather it will fit or not:
225/70-17 Yokohama Geolandar A/T-S #36 , All-Terrain T/A KO #42 29.6

Some sizes and their diameters
215/65-17 28
225/65-17 28.5
225/70-17 29.4 or 29.6
235/60 – 17 28.1
235/65-17 29

If you go to a 235/65-17 you have some great options. I would go with the Toyo AT or the Revo. If you don't want to go that big, I would go with the Toyo AT in 235/60-17. That is your best bet.
 
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...also, where do you live? If you live on the West Coast of the US go through Les Schwab. They have a great warrenty program. You can get road hazard coverage if you get tire online through tireeasy.com and tirerack.com.
 
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Again, I had the BFG M/T's on my Compass....225/75R16's. NO LIFT. NO PROBLEM.

Specs on those tires: Overall Diameter: 29.5" Section Width: 8.8"

Specs on the 'New' BFG A/T's: Overall Diameter: 29.6" Section Width: 9.0


Not much difference....only .1" on O.D. and .2" on S.W. Judging by what space I had left on my Compass, they would work on IT. The Patriot's wheel openings are shaped differently so I can't say for sure that they will fit it, but my 'S.W.A.G.' is that they would.


As for mud/snow/etc....again, I had no problem with my Compass and the M/T's on it.
 
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