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Who uses 5w20 and who uses 5w30 oil?

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I know the manual says 5w20, but I've seen and heard discussion and concerns. So who does or doesn't?
Anybody worried that the warranty will be voided if they use 5w30?
 
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Was running dino on the first two (original and 1st change), on the second, switched to Mobil 1 5w20, at 8000, my last change, went to Mobil 1 5w30 and she seems to run better and get better fuel economy. And yes this is Wisconsin so the defrost has still been on for most of the drives and I still drive it like I stole it.
 
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#11 ·
FWIW, my Patriot is leased, under warranty and all oil changes provided free by the Jeep dealer for 4 years. This means I have NO idea what grade of oil the Jeep boys are putting into the Pat.
 
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#13 ·
Over here in the UK its suggested 5w30 on the CRD

So use Castrol Edge 5w30 which meats VWs Longlife Variable Servicing.

Use the same stuff in our Audi A3 TDi ...

Change the Patriot's every 9k
The A3 does 2yrs 20,000 miles on the same stuff ...

Was tempted to trial a similar oil change interval to the A3 ... but just do it every 9k

Gives me a chance to get the tyres rotated and check everything else ...
 
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5W20 vrs 5W30

Hi. Said it before in another thread, and I'll say it again: The manual for USA 'Riots says 5w20; the oil filler cap says 5w20, why run a heavier oil? How does that make sense for better lubrication, quicker lubrication on start-up, and better flow rate through the oil ports and returns? Higher MPG with 5w30 is just confounding, because driving conditions, style, load, time of year, everything, would have to be exactly the same to test that theory. I can maybe understand a heavier oil if your 'Riot is running around in the desert SW in July, or 0W10 for the Yukon in January, but I haven't seen any info on that. Maybe the most important questions are: Oil change interval; oil filter quality; dino, blend, or synthetic oil. [PS I know the 'Riots made for Europe require 5W30, but don't know what the reason is... maybe 'cus they are diesel.] The beat goes on. PS. I use Castrol Syntec 5w20.
 
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#22 ·
Not correct.....

You will not get quicker lubrication on start-up with 5W-20. Both 5W-20 and 5W30 are 5W when cold.

You are correct about the manual and oil cap, however the reason for that is the issue. Chrysler agreed to 'recommend' 5W-20 so they could use the very slight improvement in fuel economy to hit the US Government CAFE targets. All things being equal 5W-30 will protect the motor slightly better and provide better fuel economy in the long run. (Especially if you opt for a synthetic)

Do a search here, on Google and visit 'Bob is the Oil Guy' for more information.


Hi. Said it before in another thread, and I'll say it again: The manual for USA 'Riots says 5w20; the oil filler cap says 5w20, why run a heavier oil? How does that make sense for better lubrication, quicker lubrication on start-up, and better flow rate through the oil ports and returns? Higher MPG with 5w30 is just confounding, because driving conditions, style, load, time of year, everything, would have to be exactly the same to test that theory. I can maybe understand a heavier oil if your 'Riot is running around in the desert SW in July, or 0W10 for the Yukon in January, but I haven't seen any info on that. Maybe the most important questions are: Oil change interval; oil filter quality; dino, blend, or synthetic oil. [PS I know the 'Riots made for Europe require 5W30, but don't know what the reason is... maybe 'cus they are diesel.] The beat goes on. PS. I use Castrol Syntec 5w20.
 
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Mobil 1 5-20 synthetic
 
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#31 ·
I use 5-30 synthetic in my "Riot" and I use 20-50 in my motorcycle...
I hit the rev limiter once in a great while in the Riot, (I thinks it's set around 6300 RPM...) But, the bike sees the rev limiter almost once every trip! (It's set at the factory at 5200 RPM.) The bike is a 1.7 liter "V" twin and as y'all know the Riot is an in line 4...
Both machines are used in south Florida (USA) and I'm lucky to see temperatures in the mid seventies once in a while... Typically like last nights ride home... It was 85 degrees and I was traveling 85 MPH for nearly an hour...
Under those conditions, my Riot needs all the protection it can get...!:Racing:
 
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#33 ·
I used Mobile 1 5w20 for the first time this winter, I had been using M1 5w30. I wasn't going to be towing anything, so I figured I'd try it to compare.
Didn't really notice any difference driving, but when I changed it at 5000km, it came out very black. The 5w30 never looked that black after 5000km.
 
#34 ·
i put 10w30 Acdelco synthetic oil.... happy with it no problems so far, it has 3,000 km´s running with it.
 
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