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Which tires fit & which ones doesn't

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#1 · (Edited)
I have a 4x2 grey '07 with the stock 16" steelies and 35 k miles on the original 205 tires, (so they're about to kick it).
I've been looking up for what tires to buy in order to replace the originals, because I wanted something a little fatter than the original 205, but did not want to spend the extra cash on wider rims.
Consequently, I did a lot of reading and decide to chart what other members had tried already with & without modifications.
Again this is merely to save newbies some reading and it is limited to 16".
I am listing the tire & the member who tried it.
Whoever wants more info, just search their postings and will be able to check their pics.


Tires that fit w/o mods:

215/70/16 (Jimbobb1).
225/70/16 (trainerbyday).
225/75/16 (Tyler-98-W68).
235/60/16 (Weezy) & (Cyberpine).
295/50/16 (Cyberpine) *on 8"wheels (stock steelies are only 6.5" wide).


Fits w/mods:

245/70/16 (Tilley, Hvac59 & Copper).

Problems:

the back of the front wheel (in tires this size) rub in the section of the inner liner covering the pinch weld.

Solutions:

Everyone seems to have to either cut or hammer down the pinch weld & reposition the liner with the help of a heat gun...

Note for newbies:

If you are handy you may try it at your own risk, but note they all ride lifted Pat's and had different wheels on...


Do not fit:

255/65/16 (Cyberpine) * they fit, but rub so badly on hard brakes that he had to have the store replace them.

Thanks:

To all the members cited above, for being kind enough to share their experience with the rest of us, so we know know what to do (or not to do) now. Thank you ‘all!
 
#2 ·
Excellent first post! Thanks!

Caution - the backspacing on a wheel is critical to fit or don't fit. Several of those listed above don't have stock 16" rims and some are lifted.

235/70-16 fits without rubbing on a lifted Pat and 16X8, 5" BS, no mods (other than RRO lift)

I've been meaning to submit a similar thread to the knowledge base, but haven't got around to it. It would be great if you could do this!
 
#3 ·
225/75/16 works great in my case, I really notice the how much more sidewall there is with these tires, almost too much. A lift would make a bit more room and make the look a little bit more balanced (although this is only my opinion)

In terms of fitting they fit fine but do rub at full lock either way, but on the inside fender part (as highlighted by heckler in my thread). The sidewall and lugs near the outside are rather large and agressive, with a less agressive tire you may not get any rubbing but I can't guarantee that.

The goodyear wrangler territory tires I have are noisey, so in your case with a 4x2 i'm not sure if you want something that loud, but I bet even with a 4x2 pat you could go through alot with these tires.

Hope that helps:smiley_thumbs_up:
 
#5 ·
I see nobody got bigger 17". I personally find our 2 tones rims awesome. I think we can go up to 235/65/R17 right?

Any bigger 17" on stock rims around?
 
#11 ·
You missed this one. It is a very rare size but they look great! Goodrich Long Trail T/A Tour in the P215/75R16. With the thinner tire, I see no difference in mileage (rolling resistance) and the first time you get in, the Patriot is noticeably taller from the road!
 
#16 ·
Very good.

Just to add I also went with a 225/70/16 but in pro comps.

I went with this size because it stays within the largest stock daimeter of 28.0.
largest stock diameter is 28"
 
#17 ·
So I have a question if I were to put a P215/70R16 on to my Patriot will get a sensor warning? Right now I have the P205/70R16 on it, but I need to change all 4 tires and don't want to go with the P205. Everywhere I go they tell me if I put the bigger tire on I will get either an ABS or TMPS senor. Can anyone confirm that putting one of the other tires on didn't screw up the computer?
 
#19 ·
welcome!

no, you won't get any ABS or TPMS sensor problems so long as all of your tires are the same size. Don't forget to change your spare if you change the diameter of your tires.

Check out all the tire threads in this forum. Lot's of options for you.

28" is the maximum diameter of the stock "offroad" 215/65-17 wheels. Stay under that max dia, and you'll be fine.

The dealer can recalibrate your speedometer to a 28" tire size. If you don't do this, your speed and odo will be off.
 
#18 ·
I wonder if anybody is else is running 295/50/16s on the Patriot? I've had them now for a good while and no issues. Absolutely no rubbing, they drive and look great on my custom rims. Do factor in rim width and backspacing as previously mentioned.

The only thing I've had is that the front brakes squeak a tiny bit at the end of braking. I don't think this is because of the wider tires, but I won't know until I change the brakes to better quality pads.

Nice post. Best of luck everybody.
 
#22 ·
Thanks for your help heckler. Now I just need to be careful because I still have a warranty on the Patriot until November. I have been toying with using a winter tire during the winter season and then putting an all seasons one during the other months. I would like to get the best tire I can for the winter time since they can be brutal up here in wisconsin.
 
#27 ·
Coopers OK?

I am ready to replace the stock 205/70 16 tires on my 2007 Patroit 4x4.
After reading these forums I decided I wanted to go for a wider tire without changing to 17 inch rims. I thought the Yokohamas sounded good.
Local Mavis dealer told me Geolander 215/70 16 would be a good fit.
When I went to the store to look at them, another person said no, I should go to a 215/65 16 because the tires were not only wider but taller as well. He even called their Mavis "expert" who confirmed that 215/65 16 was the way to go. I've not seen this size mentioned here in the forums. Will it work?
They have some Cooper CS 4 Touring tires that look pretty good.
Let me add: this is my wife's car so there can be no experimenting. I want something that is sure to fit. She drives about 25k per year mostly highway in Long Island, New York, which means a lot of rain and some light snow. Thanks in advance for your help!
(Off topic: I thought we were going to use the Jeep equal time and alternate with the '04 Sentra, but she and the kid soon took over the Jeep full time, so I got myself a Nissan Frontier PRO-4X pickup, which I love!)
 
#28 ·
I am ready to replace the stock 205/70 16 tires on my 2007 Patroit 4x4.
After reading these forums I decided I wanted to go for a wider tire without changing to 17 inch rims. I thought the Yokohamas sounded good.
Local Mavis dealer told me Geolander 215/70 16 would be a good fit.
When I went to the store to look at them, another person said no, I should go to a 215/65 16 because the tires were not only wider but taller as well. He even called their Mavis "expert" who confirmed that 215/65 16 was the way to go. I've not seen this size mentioned here in the forums. Will it work?
They have some Cooper CS 4 Touring tires that look pretty good.
Let me add: this is my wife's car so there can be no experimenting. I want something that is sure to fit. She drives about 25k per year mostly highway in Long Island, New York, which means a lot of rain and some light snow. Thanks in advance for your help!

Here goes a linnk to a super nice wheel-size calculator:

http://www.1010tires.com/TireSizeCalculator.asp


do the exercise and you will notice the following facts:

1-the stock: (205/70/16) has a diameter of 27.29 inches
2-your choice's (215/70/16) diameter is 27.85" (1/2" taller than the stock)
3-their recommendation (215/65/16) is only 27" (1/3" smaller) *safest bet

If you really want a wider look on the stock rims, you could go safely and put what others have done before (235/60/16) that are only 27.1"

or be brave & try 255/55/16 (27.04") which nobody has tried yet but theoretically should fit...
 
#30 ·
I went with the Goodyear Assurance TripleTred in 215/65/17 for exact stock replacement on mine. Awesome tires all around, rain snow dry etc.. What a nice tire. Only downside was my brother in-law runs a Michelin tire shop and bugs the crap outta me for not going that route, told him Michelin should have made a better tire in this size then.
 
#32 ·
Please pardon my ignorance. I want to outfit my 2WD Patriot with General AT2s for winter and I don't want to create any problems. So I have two questions:

1)What do you mean by mods? Do I have to have the computer adjusted by the dealer to compensate?

2)Has anyone tried 215/65-R16? Those seem closest to the original size.
 
#34 ·
215/65-16 (27") will fit absolutely with no changes, other than road noise
215/70-16 (28") will also fit no problem, and the only difference you'd notice were if you bought your 2wd with the upgraded 17" offroad wheel package from the factory (which are 215/-65-17 Goodyear SR/A's) Your speedometer and EVIC milage will be slightly off, but other than that - no difference in fit.
 
#36 ·
I went with the BF Goodrich All Terrain KO in 225/70r16
my pat is base no lift, These fit like a glove. Glad to get a little bigger than stock but still within spec, and I love the BFGs - have run them for years on my old xterra and previous cherokee and wrangler through snow mud and straight highway miles too, no complaints.
 
#37 ·
225/70/17

hey all need some help.....i have 235/65/17 coopers atr on my pat and after 16000 miles they are in bad shape they are a 50000 mile tire...now can i put a 225/70 /17 bfg atrs on with out a lift the tire shop is going to order me some tires and only charge me 50 a tire so i need to know if they will fit or if anyone is running them on the pat with out a lift. thanks for all of ur help
 
#38 ·
hey all need some help.....i have 235/65/17 coopers atr on my pat and after 16000 miles they are in bad shape they are a 50000 mile tire...now can i put a 225/70 /17 bfg atrs on with out a lift the tire shop is going to order me some tires and only charge me 50 a tire so i need to know if they will fit or if anyone is running them on the pat with out a lift. thanks for all of ur help
http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html