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Buy or borrow a Scangauge mileage computer. If you are going to research this further, that will be your best tool.
I will try to get my hands on one of these. Could I reprogram the on-board computer through the Scangauge? it may be helpful to try different algorithm.

For 2007, the Patriot has two options for the wheels for Sport. Do they have different circumfrence? I am just wondering, because if it does, it will affect how the car measures mileage. I will try to check the mileage read against my other car soon.
 
Beach Bummer -

Don't forget that the blend of California gas gives you worse mileage than gas you can buy just about anywhere else. I saw the drop myself in my Buick when we first moved out here from Florida. I went from getting 300+ miles per tank to lucky to break 260.

I am absolutely envious of everyone that lives outside Cali and gets better mileage than me because of that.

Fortunately, we only plan to be out here for a few more years. Then it'll be back East to a lower cost of living and cheaper gas.
 
Discussion starter · #23 · (Edited)
demolaysgirl,

The difference in gas might explain some of the differences in mpg we are seeing compared to other guys who post here. I am going through the forum and found some other long threads on mpg in the engine and transmission discussions. It looks like not everyone is getting 30+ super mpg as I first thought.
 
I will try to get my hands on one of these. Could I reprogram the on-board computer through the Scangauge? it may be helpful to try different algorithm.

For 2007, the Patriot has two options for the wheels for Sport. Do they have different circumfrence? I am just wondering, because if it does, it will affect how the car measures mileage. I will try to check the mileage read against my other car soon.
The scangauge can not re-program the computer, but it will show you error codes.
 
I drive a 4x4 CVT and my low was 19.5 mpg (mostly city) and my high was 26.5 mpg (all highway going around the speed limit). My usual is 23-24 mpg split between highway and city, but city has traffic and I am going about 75-80 mph on the highway which is higher than the optimum 65-70mph that I have read about.

I have about 6,400 miles on my jeep (since May 20th!)
 
I drive a 4x4 CVT and my low was 19.5 mpg (mostly city) and my high was 26.5 mpg (all highway going around the speed limit). My usual is 23-24 mpg split between highway and city, but city has traffic and I am going about 75-80 mph on the highway which is higher than the optimum 65-70mph that I have read about.

I have about 6,400 miles on my jeep (since May 20th!)
Those are the kind of numbers I would be relatively happy with *if* I knew for certain I would get them after signing the papers for 25K or so. One of the main reasons I've been considering a few other SUVs is because of the discrepancy among avergage MPG with the Patriot 4x4 CVT. I really wanted the FDII but am even more scared of the gas mileage I'd average with that one. I plan on posting some Jeep Patriot vs. (fill in the blank) threads sometime, but right now I'm giving serious consideration to the '09 Forester (and this is coming from someone who despises the look of previous Forester models). I kind of feel like the Patriot is still a year or 2 behind the perfect vehicle for me (especially if we had the diesel here) but I need something soon and can't wait that long :)
 
Test drive the Patriot and see if you like it. The EPA numbers from fueleconomy.gov are very close to actual, but will vary based on driving habits.

I have been able to get up to 29MPG highway on my 4x4 CVT (on a highway only trip), and down to 22MPG with more agressive mixed driving. Normally, I get about 23-24 per tank.

I think these numbers are great for a 4x4 thats not very aerodynamic.

I compared a lot of vehicles and the Patriot is still the best bang for buck and best mileage for its class.
 
It really, really depends on your driving habits... even on your current vehicle drive a tank normally and calculate the results, then on the next tank don't let your RPMs go above 2500 when accelerating and 2000 when driving and see what that does. My numbers above are a mix between normal and conservative driving (conservative when I think about it and can, but somewhat aggressive when I am running late).
 
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butch81385, thanks. i have been driving very conservatively. Lately I have been experimenting never letting the RPM go above 2000 (cruising or accelerating). That means really slow start from lights. It helps a little (around 1~2 mpg improvement over an entire tank). I am now waiting for my OBD-II interface to arrive so I can hook my laptop onto it.
 
you have to remember that there are atleast 30 different types of fuel blends
accross the United States because of EPA regulations.
My Pat gets between 16 and 19 in the city(wife driving back and forth to work) this also depends if the A/C is used alot, traffic conditions etc,etc,etc.
This past week end I went up to Tionesta PA and got 24 MPG including doing 70 MPH with the cruise set on 79N and some driving up in Tionesta.
Not too bad for having FD II package, 70 MPH is taching almost 3,000 RPM's.
Tom
 
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