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#1 ·
For your oil changes do you go by the recommended oil change schedule or do you change or have your oil & filter changed sooner ?

I'm considering switching to full synthetic oil and taking my wifeys Jeep in every 4,000 miles for oil & filter changes.
 
#3 ·
I use full synthetic oil.5w-20 whatever "known name brand" is cheapest on the shelf that day and a purolator oil filter. I use to change it every 6000mi but here recently i started to change every 7000-8000mi instead.I figure i had better get my moneys worth out of the high dollar synthetic oil.I never go by the "change oil reminder" that pops up in the instrument cluster either.That message is so full of BS.
 
#4 ·
Asking oil change questions is akin to asking about sex/religion/politics!

Today's oils are so far advanced compared to just 10 or more years ago. Conventional group 2+ oil is closing the gap on synthetic group 3.

Today's engines are much easier on oil with their computer controlled fuel injection, etc. ("average" daily driver car).

Oil life monitors are very sophisticated, although there have been a few instances where mfg. readjusted theirs down because they were too optimistic.

Change interval can vary widely based on vehicle and driving styles.

I am using the oil life moniter in my pat, but I will not go over 7K miles with synthetic.

Unless you are doing extreme conditions, synthetic for 4K miles is a waste, as a conventional could handle that easily (assuming non-extreme driving).

The only real way to know is to do a used oil analysis to determine the oil condition after a change.

Good luck.
 
#8 ·
Many high end cars routinely go over 10000 on regular and 15000 on synthetic. My 13 Accord clicked the light on at around 9000 mostly hwy miles and my old BMW an 05 called for 15000 on the Bmw approved full synthetic. No problems with either.
My "fully synthetic" oil (Pennzoil Ultra Platinum) is getting quite brown after about 4,500 miles. Also, my wife's Pat and mine are using about 1/2 quart during this interval, although we are both under 7,000 miles on our new Jeeps (her, 6,500, mine, 4,500). I just put in the 1/2 quart left over from the initial oil change requiring 4.5qts. and get through to the next change. I am hoping that the oil consumption is normal for our new engines, but wonder when the engine will be fully broken in and not consuming oil.

We followed the manual's instruction recommending low speeds the first 60 miles, then varied speed and rpms for the first 300. I replaced both our oils at 1,000 miles and hers again at ~5,000 with a tire rotation.

I have read that so-called fully synthetic oils are not actually, "fully-synthetic." Given this, the fact that we live in Central New York state and don't put more than 5,000 miles on our Jeeps every six months, I'll spend my time and money on our do-it-ourselves oil change at these intervals and record it as a piece-of-mind investment. I simply would never stretch an oil change beyond these intervals, let alone 10,000 miles :eek:
Color of oil means nothing. The ambulances I used to service and both my diesel MBZ turned the oil black as soon as you fired them up.
 
#6 ·
My "fully synthetic" oil (Pennzoil Ultra Platinum) is getting quite brown after about 4,500 miles. Also, my wife's Pat and mine are using about 1/2 quart during this interval, although we are both under 7,000 miles on our new Jeeps (her, 6,500, mine, 4,500). I just put in the 1/2 quart left over from the initial oil change requiring 4.5qts. and get through to the next change. I am hoping that the oil consumption is normal for our new engines, but wonder when the engine will be fully broken in and not consuming oil.

We followed the manual's instruction recommending low speeds the first 60 miles, then varied speed and rpms for the first 300. I replaced both our oils at 1,000 miles and hers again at ~5,000 with a tire rotation.

I have read that so-called fully synthetic oils are not actually, "fully-synthetic." Given this, the fact that we live in Central New York state and don't put more than 5,000 miles on our Jeeps every six months, I'll spend my time and money on our do-it-ourselves oil change at these intervals and record it as a piece-of-mind investment. I simply would never stretch an oil change beyond these intervals, let alone 10,000 miles :eek:
 
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we are both under 7,000 miles on our new Jeeps (her, 6,500, mine, 4,500).
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I remember when we both bought our 2014's at about the same time....I run Mobil one full syn 5-30 with a WIX oil filter and I will change it once a year which for me is about 4 to 5K miles....What ever the gauge on the dash says is meaningless to me......I also changed mine to Syn at 1,000 miles and I currently have 2,200 miles on mine....Hope your liking yours as much as I do mine!
 
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Every 5000 keeps in simple. I was using Valvoline Full Syn for the first 35,000 miles and switched to Royal Purple soon after that. I have gone 7000 miles before once using Royal Purple and it seemed alright but I was a little nervous. Since I live in a hot climate I will likely stick to my 5000 mile service. Spend a little extra on a nice filter too if you can.

Every other oil change I do a tire rotation and check a few other things.
 
#16 ·
Today's top brands of conventional oil are great as long as you change them frequently and use a good filter. I personally wouldn't do it in my Jeep though, but I drive a lot of hills and in extreme heat 6-7 months of the year. I like using very high quality oil as a form of cheap insurance so I don't have to worry about a dirty engine becoming problematic. I wouldn't drive over 4000 with any conventional, and no more than 8000 on a high quality synthetic, just my personal preferences.
 
#17 ·
I do my oil changes when the "Change Oil" message appears in the dash. I do this because I still have a lifetime power train warranty to maintain, and I don't know what type of logging the computer retains. When I was travelling further for work, this used to be a 5200-5800 mile interval. Now that my driving is only about 10 minutes of stop and go, this has reduced to 2800-3400 miles. So if anyone doubts whether the oil life monitor works, I can confirm that it does. Either that or the last time the dealer had it they changed something in the programming.
 
#21 ·
How many miles for the change oil light to appear?
 
#22 ·
See post #17 above. Todde702 states that it does indeed vary depending on use. I am approaching 5,000 miles stop and go city and my EVIC is reading 10% life left. I'm changing it at 5K regardless, recording when the oil change indicator activates, then resetting it. I will keep to a 4-5K oil change schedule no matter what the oil change indicator states, but will record it nonetheless.
 
#23 ·
Interesting .... yea I will keep to my 5k standard as well.
 
#25 ·
I replace the engine oil every 9000 to 10000 miles.
My driving is 97% highway cruising.
I use Mobil One full synthetic & my 2.4L is equipped with an oil cooler.
The 2009 pat currently has 139000 trouble free miles on the engine & the last oil analysis showed no high numbers of the bad by products from use at the longer oil change intervals.
The company I work for recently retired its fleet of 20 2006 Jeep Liberty's.
Each one had in excess of 100,000 miles using conventional engine oil replaced @ 6,000 mile intervals with no ill effects. These were all hard, continuous city miles with long periods of idling.
Today's engines are better engineered as well as the current lubricants than what was available 25 years ago.
I have seen one old Honda CRX commuter car with nearly 500,000 miles on the original engine.
No reason why a riot engine cannot match that.
 
#26 ·
Figured I'd chime in since I'm doing an oil change this weekend. I just run conventional since I change my own and can do it fairly often. I aim for a change at 5000 km but it's usually 6000 km (3000-4000 'ish miles) by the time I get around to it. It's dirty but that's its job.

As for diesels, you can't trust the colour with them at all. I used to maintain some heavy vehicles that were up there in age (385000 km on my ram 3500 when I quit). you could change the oil and run them for 30 seconds and it would look like the stuff you just took out. You can tell by the texture. If you can feel any "grit" in the oil, it's toast.
 
#31 ·
$80 an oil change .... holy crap! :eek:

I get about 30 oil changes for $800 using Castrol Syntec meaning changing at 7.5k I would get 225,000 miles out of it. Yea and things to consider including the fine print ... and is the dealer even going to be in business in a decade (many have closed or rebranded in my area).
 
#30 ·
I got my Riot with 15 miles on it. Im going to change the oil at 1k (currently at 650) and go full synthetic. I have noticed big differences in the full syn vs regular. I had to run my last 4 vehicles on full syn to maintain solid mpg and heat. When its 121 in the summer this is a no brainer.
 
#32 ·
They use Mobile 1 which is $38 for a jug up here , and a filter is 12 bucks so a DIY oil change for me is 50 bucks plus waste oil disposal and time. At 79 bucks for a synthetic oil change at the dealer is about 15 dollars less than at the local QuickLube places around here, and it keeps my extended warranty up to snuff. Costs are higher here in AK but our incomes are higher also. My $110K salary plus benefits is probably equal to a $75 salary in Texas or someplace.
 
#33 ·
Yea around here Mobile1 oil change deals at Advanced/Autozone/Oriley/FleetFarm/etc are always pretty consistent with a $35 price tag or less (the other week was $29.99). Oil disposal is available for free at any of auto store or your local recycle facility. Oil changes at the dealer or at home have no impact on the warranty.

If that works for you great :)