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so jealous of the paint!! wow, so cool. murder that thing out! tint the tails and corner lights, along with black rims. Let me know if you need help looking for the right HID headlight kit too ;] welcome!
 
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so jealous of the paint!! wow, so cool. murder that thing out! tint the tails and corner lights, along with black rims. Let me know if you need help looking for the right HID headlight kit too ;] welcome!
I wanted dark lights, but it's stricktly forbidden in Austria. :mad:

But I'm sure we'll talk about the right HID hl in the next weeks. Thanks.

It isnt a Limited its just a Sport same as I had. Sport is no fog lights , No Silver roof rails , " Yes Fabric" seats not leather, no heated seats , no cruise control, Just a single shot CD player ( Even Limited doesnt get DVD/Nav in UK /Europe)......You should have Electric , heated folding mirrors. If it is a Limited , it will have Chrome Limited badge on the tailgate.The dashboard you show is 07---10 After this the dash was modified. There were originaly only 2 Euro models Limited & Sport, they have recently added Sport Plus.
Yes, it's a Diesel 2.0, 88kW (120 PS)
It isnt a Limited its just a Sport same as I had. Sport is no fog lights , No Silver roof rails , " Yes Fabric" seats not leather, no heated seats , no cruise control, Just a single shot CD player ( Even Limited doesnt get DVD/Nav in UK /Europe)......You should have Electric , heated folding mirrors. If it is a Limited , it will have Chrome Limited badge on the tailgate.The dashboard you show is 07---10 After this the dash was modified. There were originaly only 2 Euro models Limited & Sport, they have recently added Sport Plus.
Hey great! Thanx for your help! Here's the (false) ad from the Jeep/Chrysler Dealer, in German. They just copied the description from the Patriot 2011. :eek: :
Details:
Klimaanlage, 6x Front- Seiten- & Kopf, Allrad, Leichtmetallfelgen, Elektr. Fensterheber, Zentralverriegelung, Alarmanlage, ESP, 6 Gänge, ABS, MP3 Radio, Nebelscheinwerfer, Farbe: brilliant black met, Rücksitzbank geteilt, Heckscheibenwischer, Außenspiegel elektrisch, Temperaturanzeige, Dachreling, Wegfahrsperre, Verbrauch innerorts: 0.0 l/100km, Verbrauch außerorts: 0.0 l/100km, Verbrauch komb.: 0.0 l/100km, CO2 0.0 g/km, 5 Türen, 5 Sitze, ASR
Beschreibung:
Antriebsschlupfregelung (ASR), Freedom Drive I Allradsystem: vollautomatischer Allradantrieb, Audiosystem mit Radio CD-/DVD-Player, MP3-fähig, Außentemperaturanzeige und Kompass, Reifendruckkontrollsystem, Armauflage vorn, verschiebbar, Aschenbecher herausnehmbar und Zigarettenanzünder, Außenspiegel elektrisch einstell- und beheizbar, manuell anklappbar, Beifahrersitzlehne vorklappbar, Fahrersitz, höhenverstellbar, Fensterheber elektrisch vorne und hinten, Fußmatten vorne und hinten, Heckscheibe beheizbar, Heckscheibenwischer, Herausnehm- und wiederaufladbare Taschenlampe, in Innenraumbeleuchtung integriert, Klimaanlage, Lederlenkrad mit Bedienelementen für das Audiosystem, Rücksitzlehne neigungsverstellbar, Scheiben in Wärmeschutzverglassung, Seitenscheiben hinten und Heckscheibe abgedunkelt, Sitzpolsterung Stoff Stain Repel, Sonnenblenden, mit Spiegeln, Stromanschluss (12 Volt), Zentralverriegelung mit Fernbedienung, Dachreling schwarz, Gepäckraumabdeckung, Rücksitzlehne im Verhältnis 60: 40 teil- und umklappbar, Wegfahrtürverriegelung, Leichtmetallräder, 6, 5 x 17 Zoll mit 215/60 R17 Reifen, Türgriffe außen in Schwarz, 4-Kanal-Antiblockiersystem (ABS) mit elektronischer Bremskraftverteilung (EBV), Airbag (mehrstufig) für Fahrer und Beifahrer, Windowbags für vordere und hintere Sitzreihe, Alarmanlage, Bremsassistent (BAS), Elektronische Wegfahrsperre, Elektronisches Stabilitätsprogramm (ESP®) mit elektronischem Überrollschutzsystem, ISOFIX Kindersitzbefestigung, Nebelscheinwerfer und Nebelschlussleuchte, Seitenairbags vorne, Alle Angaben ohne Gewähr



Is it diesel?
Yes, 2.0, 88kW, 120 PS
 
Discussion starter · #24 ·
:pepper: Got my patriot today! :pepper:
First I was sad hearing the WROOOOM Sound from my XJ for the last time.
But the buyer sold my XJ to greece. As a Greece-fan, I probably see my black Indian Chief again sometime :D

The Pat drives like my XJ would, if he was built 2010.
Same sice, simple to handle. No complicated extras.

Saturday we get black Windows.

The only thing I'm looking for in the internet, are black mats.
Chrysler/Jeep can't order the Vmaxx Riffle "rubber" mats anymore.
Does anyone have these Husky Line?
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370480957982&clk_rvr_id=239268507365

Do they fit?
Thanks for help,
cya
Michael
PS: When the windows are dark, I'll post fotos.
 
Welcome and congratulations. That looks really awesome. I thought about doing the same on my Patriot when I bought it last year, it would make a perfect match to my bike (HD Iron 883). But with this economic mess all over it is being hard enough just to keep up with them both the way they are
 
Congrats on picking up your Patriot. You're going to really like this vehicle. So one question......who gets to drive it on a daily basis, you or the wife? :Racing:

p.s. Please show pic's of the tint when available. I'm sure it will look awesome.
 
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Congrats on picking up your Patriot. You're going to really like this vehicle. So one question......who gets to drive it on a daily basis, you or the wife? :Racing:

p.s. Please show pic's of the tint when available. I'm sure it will look awesome.
Thanks.
Wife 60% (daily to work), me 40% (trips, holidays, free time, visiting family, etc.)
I use to go to work (4 minutes per foot :notworthy:) and 2-3 times a week to the pub (5 minutes per tram or 15 per foot). I don't drink and drive (anymore). Jeep sleeps in the garage - better.
Why do you ask?

I get the tint next week. The guy who does it, has no time tomorrow.
I'll post fotos.
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The last 3 hours we drove through vienna. This car is really fun to drive!
Our son loves it. I just need seatcovers and mats for the feet.
I bought Alpine 3-way speakers after reading the helpfull forumthreads. They only had these in the shop. All the others sold out....
After beeing a father, I don't need Hifi for high price anymore. 4 qualityspeakers are enough.
Going to the pub, drinking with my friends and talking about my car till sunrise :blah:
Cheers Jeepers!
 
Hello to the All-black Patriot owner!
Post pics after the tint and think about maybe painting your wheels matt-black.
Your ride will then be one of a kind!
And I will easily spot you when I will be in Vienna!
Regards!
 
Discussion starter · #29 ·
Hello to the All-black Patriot owner!
Post pics after the tint and think about maybe painting your wheels matt-black.
Your ride will then be one of a kind!
And I will easily spot you when I will be in Vienna!
Regards!
Today I got the dark windows. More tint is not allowed in Austria. :(
Sorry for the bad fotoquality, but I was in a hurry and the sun was too bright.
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I'm really happy with my Pat. He's agil and nice to drive. City and overland.
Black Rims will be bought when my wallet is filled again.
This winter I'll use the original rims for snowtires and I plan to get black rims in spring. Any size suggestions? I guess the cheapest way is to stay with the actual size.

The only thing that annoys me, is that the chryslershop told us and my insurance the wrong original price of the car. I looked in the internet and found my patriot configuration. It's not SPORT (as they told us), it's not SPORT+, it's not LIMITED or OVERLAND or something.
It's the cheapest form of Patriot. They built 2008/09 only for Austria.
It's called "MY FIRST JEEP" http://www.jeep.at/patriot/special_edition/first_jeep/index.html and was 8000 (!!!) Euros cheaper than they told us!!!!
(the foil not included)

So, we paid too much, but that's not the problem. 5000 Euros more and I'd get a 2011 Patriot. But without the foil. So I like the car and we bargained and payed 2500 less than they wanted. First I thought it's a sale of the century. Now I know it wasn't.
But that's not the problem. What annoys me, is that they gave the high price to my insurance, so I pay much more insurance rate than I should pay.
AND the radio without mp3 is another point. (see the Audio section:http://www.jeeppatriot.com/forum/showthread.php?t=74826 )

So we wait for the bill from chrysler. Should be in my mailbox this week.
Then we'll call the insurance AND the Jeep-dealer. It's not ok, that they didn't tell the truth. (Well, car salesmen - a unique human race)
It would be ok, if they lower the insurance rate and if chrysler installs a better radio. We will see. I'm sure my wife will fight for her rights like a lion :D
We have a legal costs insurance so no problem.

Apart from that, the Patriot, the color, the engine, etc. is great and it's fun to drive! I put in new speakers Alpine SPG-69C3 and ordered good car mats from Vmaxx.

Friday I'll make a short 2day trip to the mountains. A wedding of a friend in Carinthia. 4 hours highway and nice mountain roads. Let's see how the pat is doing.
But no off-road! It's to new and my wife would kill me destroying our new PAT at the first trip :Racing:
 
The matt black is beautifull. :notworthy:
It might have been a cheap limited version but it has some of the Limited's specs from what I can tell: 17" alloys, front fog lights, etc.
 
Mine is also very basic, only option I got was the Off Road, and mine is a Sport. I personally don't like power windows and door locks, etc. Just more things to go wrong IMHO.

I like the flat black look too, and you will always know which one is yours.

For winter wheels, look at the 16", as there are a lot more tires available for that size, and you can always get the same diameter, so won't affect your height, or spare tire.

As far as good mats for winter, it seems the two big choices are WeatherTech, and Husky. There are several threads here in the forum on those.
 
Dont forget , The UK /Euro Sport model , is far higher speced than its equivelent North American brother.

People on the Avenger site are amazed that the UK SXT comes with heated , leather electic seats , fogs. trunk spoiler, auto dip mirror, heated folding electric door mirrors.chrome grille etc. A lot of these things have to be specified in an options package in USA , even on the SXT.
 
Dont forget , The UK /Euro Sport model , is far higher speced than its equivelent North American brother.

People on the Avenger site are amazed that the UK SXT comes with heated , leather electic seats , fogs. trunk spoiler, auto dip mirror, heated folding electric door mirrors.chrome grille etc. A lot of these things have to be specified in an options package in USA , even on the SXT.
I mentioned on another thread also the high spec version we get in South Africa: Only one model, Limited with heated leather, 17" alloys, EVIC, 4x4, front and rear fog lights, cruise control, power windows, power doorlocks, heated folding mirrors, etc.
 
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Dont forget , The UK /Euro Sport model , is far higher speced than its equivelent North American brother.
Yes, I read that. But don't forget, Jeeps are much more expencive in Europe.
US-Cars are Import-Cars here. Jeep has (had) a good name.
Even with my 16 year old XJ, people often ask me: "man, how can you afford such an expencive car!?" (I paid 3400€ 6 years ago :D, but it was worth 9000!)
The Grand Cherokee here costs between 52 and 89000 Euros! (75-128000 $)

So for the Patriot:
The 2011 is between 32000 Euro and 35000 Euro!
The 2010 is now reduced (new) for 26990 (37,567 US$) !

So my car, new, was ment to cost 31500 € without the foil, they told us, but they sold it new for 25000 € to get rid of the 2008 cockpit style, I guess.
So it's a difference for me, to pay 21500€ for my car, believing a year ago it cost 31500. We thought we had a best price. Now knowing it cost new 25000 and is a 2008 model. 5500 more and I get an new one with many more extras....


I have these extras:
Electric Windows, heated mirrors, 4 year extra garanty (with car-rent and hotel, if needed), alu rims, CD-Player, silver door pins, ESP, ABS, and some other electronic safety things I forgot, 4x4, spoiler at the back, electric door lock, etc.
But all these things are standard in Europe, if you want to sell cars.
Except you want a Dacia or a Lada Taiga :D

I don't need all the other extras (wheel pressure control, DVD, NAVI, electric chair, heated chair, sunroof, etc.) but man, we have 2011! Radio without mp3 or IPOD connection!?! :doh:

But when I think about it, I don't rally care about the price, etc..
I've got a (nearly) new, unique Jeep.
And there will allways be a better price or better car somewhere. This car fits to me and family, like the Chief (XJ) did.
 
Cheapest Patriot in UK is ÂŁ19.795 ( I dont think it will be on sale much longer) However when the Dacia Duster gets here next year it will start at ÂŁ11.000.I didnt know that the Lada was still for sale ???? used to be the NIVA in UK.
 
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Came back today from the trip to carinthia.
About 800 kilometer (500 miles) of highway, countryroads and mountainroads,
sun, rain, extreme rain, and speed between 80 and 170 km/h (50 - 105 mph)
It was really relaxed, silent and safe driving, but with power if I needed it.
My friends liked the car, too.
A car for city AND for trips to Italy, Kroatia or other family holidays.
Driving 2x 400 km with my XJ? Was nice, but I would sleep now, because it was exhausting. :zzz:
 
Great stuff!! I had a RIVA 1200 years ago----The trouble with LADA's is you can kill them--but they just wont lie down!!---If you think the Basic Patriot is Basic ---the NIVA is Basic Basic---I cant help but love its honesty!!
 
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