Yep loads of people ...its a design / manufacturing fault!!

 

There are several threads on this issue, some with remedies. Do you have the sun roof?

 

yeah i have a sunroof

 

My '10 (with sunroof) has leaked there twice in recent months. The first time the dealer found debris in the sunroof drain tubes. The second time they didn't find anything. We've had a lot of heavy rain this spring, and it didn't leak, so it's really annoying that it happens seemingly at random. I've started looking at the dome light when I first get in the car. Never know when my Garmin will get leaked on. Very irritating.

 

Mine leaks also w/ the same mysterious leak on/leak off symptom. It has rained like a freakin' monsoon and I didn't have a drop of water come in; other times it leaks in via the from map lights.

I suspect it's some sort of structural integrity issue around the sunroof. Figure this one out:

I was at the dealership regarding another issue some three months ago and discussed the leak with the tech; he thought it was the sunroof drain tubes, so w/ the sunroof open he poured some water into the canal. He first did this on the front left side of the opening, and about 7 seconds later it drained out somewhere around the front left tire. Then he did the same on the right side (it drained out near the front right tire). He said this shows the tubes are clear! An hour later after the Jeep work's finished, I'm pulling out of the dealership and - WTF - it starts leaking water into the cab via the map lights! This is after he proved the two front drains were open. It's possible the back drains were clogged, but ... nearly all the water hard already drained, so hard to see how the little excess water left could have rolled up over the rim (!?) The only thing I can think of is that the metal around the sunroof has one or more cracks that's letting water though. Other ideas?

 

They all leak.

 

I had a 2009, drove it for 2 years. Had the sunroof. NEVER leaked a drop. Ever.
They dont ALL leak.

 

Look for the threads on this, I know the drain tubes do get clogged and then leak, but I did think someone found a solution to that.

 

I tried siliconing the whole back, lasted for 6 months and started to leak.

I got sick of it and emailed CEO and they was able to honor it under warranty. Car is 4 years old and had 80000km.

The repair cost them $360 and considering they couldn't fine the problem. The took the whole headliner out and resealed everything! So far its been about 4 months and so good!

 

I feel sorry for you. My 09 pat has leaked since literally day 1. The last three weeks we've had tons of rain and gushing water out of the front and middle dome lights as well as along the top of the windshield and headliner and the right front a-pillar. I've brought it in so may time sin the past with the same result every time "unable to duplicate the problem".

I've suggested taking the headliner out so they can ACTUALLY see where the water come sin but their response has something to do with warranty not allowing them to do that much work.

I am going through the steps to do this:

http://www.camvap.ca/eng/camvap_for_me.htm

I called chrysler canada headquarters last week where the person there told me i need to contact the service manager and give her one last shot to do something about the problem and then I can call headquarters back before I'm allowed to start arbitration. As of yesterday the idiots at the dealership still were only having the pat sit there for hours with water running over the top of it and couldn't see a leak. After explaining it to them for the 10th time that you can actually see the leak as it happens but that the leak appears once the jeep starts moving AFTER a rain and the water comes pouring out like niagara falls. Talking to them is like dealing with blind monkeys.

Anyway I'm waiting foe a call today. I sort of hope they don't take the headliner out and don't find the leak so i can call headquarters and maybe if i'm lucky go on to arbitration and get them to buy this piece of sh!t back from me. although I'm not sure the company would let it go that far.

Godd luck with that!

 

Leak in Dome Light and A Pillar

At the Carolina shore and heavy rain this morning. Went to car and dome light and A pillar are leaking. This is the first time this has happened. Does Chrysler have a solution for this?

 

At the Carolina shore and heavy rain this morning. Went to car and dome light and A pillar are leaking. This is the first time this has happened. Does Chrysler have a solution for this?

Duchoma, From everything I've read so far it doesn't appear that Chrysler has a definitive answer as to why their Patriots leak. Some possible answers are:

- Poor sunroof seal that lets in too much water (letting in a little is OK, as there are drainage canals)
- Drainage canals are too small and therefore clog up too easily
- Poor seals in other body penetration points (luggage rack, etc)
- Possible cracks in the body in the sunroof area?

Most folks that have this leak problem have sunroofs. But some w/o the sunroof also have it.

I was at a dealership for another issue, and the mechanic poured some water into the rim area on each front side of the sunroof, and both times the water drained out through the wheel wells. This is exactly what it is supposed to do. He said this proves they aren't clogged. However, when I rode away about 1/10 of a mile down the street water started leaking - this made no sense. I think mine could have a crack or something in the metal that is letting in the water (???) It's very inconsistent.

Is your vehicle still under warranty? What year is it, and do you have a sunroof?

G

 

It is a 2009 Patriot. I do have a sunroof. It is still under warranty. What scares me is that Chrysler does not seem to have an answer. I would prefer a recall with a solution rather than a gremlin the dealer cannot fix. Thanks for the information.

 

I have this same issue with the 2009 Patriot I just bought used. While I'm not scared at all about it. I do see there is a pretty large issue here.

My issue is the rear dome light with the pull out flashlight. I have water pooling in the headliner. Going to take it in as my Jeep still has warranty.

Seems nobody has a clear answer here. Any tips to mentioned to them when I do take it in? I've got a baby on the way and cannot afford multiple trips to and from the dealership

 

someone have the drain tubes diagram?

 

Any one have a real fix for this? My 08 leaks bad. Kinda embarrassing getting the family all loaded in and once we turn a corner water is everywhere dripping on my wife.

 

I have the same problem. Today I went through the car wash and what a surprise the rear dome light was pouring out water. I can't find the source...

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FYI.. had the same issue on my 2007 Jeep Patriot.. You should remove the spare Tire and check that area, as mines was all moldy... Guess it was leaking for some time.

Anyhow, I will update you guys.. I emailed the Chrysler CEO as I didn't want to spend time at the dealer and paying for some manufacturing BS.

I got a call back the next day and they set me up to a dealership that had in-house water leak test. They couldn't find it, so ended up pulling the whole headliner and resealing the roof with that hard factory stuff.. Best part was the rock hard silicone stuff they use is an exact paint match, so you can't tell.

The repair would of cost me $348.00 plus a weeks rental but it was totally free.

I had 80000km on the Jeep patriot, past the 3 years warranty.

Just a FYI..

 

What is the email address that you used? Can you share it please? This situation is so frustrating!

 

Here is the email I sent...

From: XXX
To: sergio.marchionne@chrysler.com
Subject: Jeep Patriot 2007 issues
Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 22:03:56 -0400


Hi Sergio, I was advised to contact you with regards to my issues with my 2007 Jeep Patriot.



Here is the story,



The Jeep Patriot was purchased in May 12, 10 at XXX Scarborough, Ontario. It was purchased as a used vehicle with 62,399km’s off a lease. I like this vehicle a lot, and have lots of pride in Chrysler and Jeep vehicles. I experienced 2 issues with my Jeep since it was purchased, Bad Wheel bearings which I paid for to replace all 4 of them, and rear water leak through the dome light, an issue I am presently experiencing.

Eversince then I encountered issues with the Jeep making humming noise when driving. They advised because the vehicle was purchased used, it was the tires that were worn and needed to be replaced. So I decided to hold that off until Oct 2010, when I purchased 4 brand new tires and still experienced the same humming noise. That is when I brought the vehicle back to XXX and they took it for a test drive. They then advised it was the 2 Front Wheel Bearings and that it was not covered under powertrain warranty. The brochure that was given to be stated that Front Wheel Bearings are considered power train. They said because the car was purchased within a year they would cover the cost of the 2 Wheel Bearings and I will need to pay $360+tax for the labour which I paid. I spoke to the service manager and he was no help. This repair should have been done prior to being sold as a used vehicle. The vehicle still had a humming noise after the repair, this is when the mechanic said both back wheel bearings need to be replaced also. This time the dealer quoted me $780 for 2 Rear Wheel Bearing and Labour. I asked if anything can be done about the pricing? The advised they will get back to me on that and never did, so I got that changed at a local garage.



I also experienced a strange issue with a water leak at the back of the vehicle. It leaks through the Rear Dome Light and I do not have a moonroof. I experienced this issue since last year when I purchased the car, I did some reasearch and found out that it was a common issue. So I went to a local Canadian Tire and purchased some Caulk and it seems to have fixed the issue until the last rain storm we had last week. That is when I noticed water learking through the rear dome light. He rear headliner was soaked. I took it back to XXX Chrysler and they advised they will need to call in a company called LeakPro and I would have to pay for diagnose and all the repairs. I advised the advisor the vehicle is less than 1 year old and purchased at the location. He said he will check my VIN and get back to me but hasn’t got back to me yet. It has been 2 weeks. This is the reason I am writing this email to Chrysler and hopefully I will be contacted about this issue and hopefully a resolution will be met. Please have a look at the below link as many are experiencing this issue.

http://www.jeeppatriot.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4155



Thank you for taking your time to read this email and look into this matter.

I can be contacted at (647)XXXXXXX or via email at XXX

VIN NUMBER: 1JXXXXXX07XXXXXXX

 

I have already sealed the entire back hatch area, but it still leaks. My headliner is not wet when this happens, the only thing wet is the light.

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My 2007 Patriot didn't leak the first two years, then came in with a vengeance. It started doing so about 1000 miles after the warranty expired, incidentally. I had them replace the seal once which seemed to help for about 6 months. It's still totally inconsistent.

Checking out the entire water catch area of the sunroof under the seal and not seeing anything wrong, I believe there is probably a crack in the rear area metal that I can't see due to the sunroof glass and other mechanical stuff blocking my view. But there's not way to tell for sure w/o removing the entire sunroof.

 

That sucks. Every time it rains, I am now checking my floor mats, dome lights. I didn't know about this leaking problem when I bought my 2013. : (

 

Is this issue only for people with sunroofs?

 

yepp

 

I've gotten a few unplanned baths. Ive had my pat back to the body shop. The first time it was plugged drains. I believe they run down along the windsheild and terminate in the wheel well. The guy put the lpa to it and blew the line all to pieces. Ended up replacing all the lines. They were plugged solid. That solved the problem for a few weeks. Then again I went out to go to work backed down the driveway and splash. Water all down over me the dash. I dont know how the stereo still works.

Anyways I took it back and they used a water plant water can (low tech is sometimes the best with these things.) Anyways from what we found out it was a design flaw. It is supposed to leak.... YEA RIGHT, more like something they didnt foresee and never fixed in the design phaze. This is why the drainpan is around the sunroof. IF it rains hard enough more water will flow in then the drains can handle and it will overflow and lay inside the headliner. This effect is multiplied if the vehical is not sitting on level ground... I still havent heard of a fix. If anyone does PM me a link or solution. I have thought about taking marine sealant and sealing the bugger closed as i dont use it very much anyhow....

 

Did they check the rear drains also? If so, how do you get back there to check/clear them? (the sunroof glass is in the way)

 

I have the same problem with my 2008 Jeep Patriot. It's out of warranty and all this year it's been in and out of the dealership. I bet if enough of us started to complain maybe something would happen.

 

Hey SBVITOLA85,

TSB 23-005-13 may relate to your vehicle:

SUBJECT:
Water Leaks At The Front And/Or Rear Roof Area
OVERVIEW:
This bulletin involves inspecting the front and/or rear of the headliner for dampness. If
necessary add additional seam sealer to the roof ditch and replacing the front and/or rear
sunroof drain tubes or grommets.
MODELS:
2007 - 2010 (MK) **Compass** / Patriot
NOTE: This bulletin applies to vehicles built before August 20,2010 (MDH0820XX).
SYMPTOM/CONDITION:
Water leaks from the roof ditch and sunroof area.

 

Well as far as my research goes.. here's what I know.

The drain tubes run along the pillars down towards the floorboards on each side. I have seen someone pull up the floor of the Pat, remove the footrest, and locate the tube.. The tube goes into a grommet which goes to exterior of car. These tubes diameter are entirely too small. Pollen, dust, and just about anything can clog them. A short term solution is blowing air through the tubes to remove any debris causing blockage.. another option that I've seen is to cut the very end of this tube, as it is tapered.. and that will allow it to flow more freely. I had water in my dome light when I bought my 10 Pat. Advised the dealer who said he would address.. and I haven't had leakage despite lots of rain.

Haven't had to try any methods but at the very least, try and locate the drain tube and look for kinks, splits, or blockage.

 

I guarantee this problem is not just with patriots with sunroofs. I don't have a sunroof on my 08 and the map lights leak like a sieve.

 

Anyone out there know how to remove the roof rails?

Thanks