I blew .65 and now am not covered by my insurance. FML I now have a wreck sitting in the yard of a tow truck company (charging me storage) that I need to sell. Anyone know the best place to sell this?

FML really? Yeah, you DID FYL... just thankfully you didn't take anybody else with you or else the car would be the least of your worries. Drinking and driving... wow. How DARE you complain after doing something as stupid as that. I honestly have NO sympathy for you. If you were working a lot and not getting sleep, the LAST thing you should be doing is drinking, and then on top of that drive? WTF???!!! WOW! Pathetically stupid... and then want sympathy for destroying your car... wow! WOW!!! You deserve what you get!

 

thankfully you didn't take anybody else with you

This.

 

I'm sorry about your ride! I'm sure there are places that will take it and part it out--looks like the engine compartment is shot though.

It may have been a stupid mistake and I hope you will learn from it.

 

Good thing you're ok and nobody else got hurt. Like my dad says all the time when doing a long distance driving...if you're tired and sleepy, just pull over and go to sleep even for a couple of hours.

 

Exactly what GatorGirl said

You're a fu**ing idiot to be driving after drinking and little sleep

I'm glad you're not covered by insurance - maybe think next time you drink and drive, if you're capable of thinking

Hope you lose your licence for a while, so you can sit and consider what you might have done to someone else

PS - you probably mean 0.065

 

First of all I dont go out and get pissed and drive around. I was .65 the limit is .50 the police said if I waited 20 mins I would have been fine. The doctor said when your tired and driving you normally notice and can feel yourself getting sleepy. After a couple of drinks you don't notice your tired and you just fall asleep without even noticing.

 

Are you still pissed? You sure the limit isn't 0.050 and you blew a 0.065? A 0.065 would be something like three drinks in one hour for a dude weighing 200 pounds

 

.65?!?! Is blood alcohol measured differently over there? Rough guestimate for a guy weighing 100 lbs that is 14 or 15 beers in an hour. I hear US beers are weak, but DAYUM!!!!

 

oh now I see why people were so angry, I was .065 not .65 and the limit is .050

 

Wow some people are harsh on here, not saying you are excused but i'm sure some other people have driven before and maybe shouldn't have, but it is the internet so everyone is perfect right? not making excuses but can we at least look on the bright side, his Patriot performed well in a crash, gives me some slight piece of mind that these vehicles can stand up to a crash like that, i'm sorry to hear about your loss.

 

Internet or not, I have NEVER had even one SIP of a drink and drove after. I also do not do drugs and drive either. I prefer to have full control over my faculties. I also am aware that when I do drink I get sleepy, which is why I only drink at home, and before bedtime. So don't throw the "internet peeps is holier than thou" speech, I'm just holier than thou when it comes to drinking and driving.

And PS to the dude that DID drink and drive... over the limit is OVER THE LIMIT! I don't care if you've had only ONE beer... you don't drink and drive.

 

Peepers are sensitive about boozing behind the wheel. I have certainly driven home when I shouldn't have. Sucks to be you but it could have been a lot worse. .050 is not hard to get to in real life and seems crazy low to void your insurance over. Glad everyone is safe. Next time you drink figure one drink per hour and you should be safe. Colorado law is .050 is a dwai .080 is a dui. I don't believe either void your insurance where it wouldn't cover the damages.

 

Next time you should get some sleep instead of going to a social outing.
Don't burn yourself out man, this is a life lesson you needed by the sounds of it.

Do you have 16" wheels, are they still OK? If so, hit me up on PM.
I'm just down the road at Logan. Goodluck with the rest of it.

 

oh that's ok then, cos you are just a little bit over?

look at page 5 of this http://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/Safety/Transport-and-road-statistics/Road-safety-statistics.aspx

20% of fatalities in QLD involve alcohol - all these drivers won't be blind drunk, a very high percentage will have low-mid range alcohol

15% of fatalities involve fatigue

combine these attributes and it's a recipe for disaster

YOU ARE VERY LUCKY TO WALK AWAY FROM THIS. YOU ARE VERY LUCKY NOT TO HAVE KILLED SOME INNOCENT

To all those posters who are saying that there are harsh comments on this thread, would you be so warm and fuzzy if he had killed someone? someone you knew? and then came online and said "Sorry, but it's ok, cos I only had a couple of beers knowing I was very tired, then got behind the wheel of a ton and a half of metal and drove at 90kph while asleep on the public roads"

I'll say it again. Mate - you're a fu**king idiot

 

I fully concur with you on this one mate...I have been at too many fatal accidents where the thoughtless actions of others have resulted in the deaths of either themselves or innocent parties or both..often involving children.

It never ceases to amaze me at the outright stupidity and selfishness of those who drink and drive.
The sooner they introduce a zero drink drive limit the better...however it shouldn't need to be legislated for...common sense dictates if you are going to drive you don't drink...its not rocket science.

Also I firmly believe if you don't value your licence let alone others lives then you should lose your licence PERMANENTLY...1 strike and you are out!

If 20% of motor vehicle accident fatalities involve alcohol then 80% don't.

Just saying.

I don't see Kainusgrove bitching and moaning or defending himself much, just reporting what happened, I'm sure he has a world of financial hurt ahead and will have lots of time to ponder things.

While he doesn't need a pat on the back, maybe he doesn't need to be judged quite so harshly.

Or would some of you prefer we went back to the stocks...public shaming, maybe we should bury him up to the neck and gather round while others throw stones at him.

Maybe he should just disappear into the night, to a re-education camp?

Nothing is black or white...everything is shaded to one degree or another is all I'm saying.

He isn't bitching or moaning or defending himself as he has nothing to defend his actions with...he is guilty...he made the choice to drive whilst excessively tired that in itself is stupid...he then compounds his error by drinking....public shaming works....he has come on a forum and admitted to being over the limit and driving whilst tired...he didn't have to admit that as the reason for his crash and I applaud him for being honest enough to confess that. Yes he is facing financial hurt but its of his own making...maybe next time he will think again before driving.

 

If 20% of motor vehicle accident fatalities involve alcohol then 80% don't.

Just saying.

I don't see Kainusgrove bitching and moaning or defending himself much, just reporting what happened, I'm sure he has a world of financial hurt ahead and will have lots of time to ponder things.

While he doesn't need a pat on the back, maybe he doesn't need to be judged quite so harshly.

Or would some of you prefer we went back to the stocks...public shaming, maybe we should bury him up to the neck and gather round while others throw stones at him.

Maybe he should just disappear into the night, to a re-education camp?

Nothing is black or white...everything is shaded to one degree or another is all I'm saying.

 

Nothing is black or white...everything is shaded to one degree or another is all I'm saying.

Would you feel that way if that happened to your brother or sister? I don't think so.

And as far as stats go, I don't know the stats in Aussie territory, but here in Florida they are pretty bad. Just last week a guy got into a crash... pulled a hit and run, then drove into a curb, flipped his SUV, and died. He'd had his warning by the 1st accident... got a second chance to live, and blew it. All this... because he was intoxicated.

 

Agreed Metaxa, black and white rarely exists

Not sure about where you are, but public shaming is gaining support here in Oz and back in the UK as well

People love to hide behind the word "accident" when it comes to car collisions, but 97% plus are not accidents, they are due to some human error. Not human accident, human error. Someone did something wrong, that if they had not done, then the collision would likely not have occurred.

If the OP hadn't had a few beers, after little sleep, the collision likely would not have happened.

Hopefully he will make better decisions in the future, based on his learning. But surely, we don't all have to learn first hand that alcohol and fatigue and driving are not a good mix. We are intelligent enough as a species to learn from others mistakes

 

Minnesota went from .10 to .08 several years back. Unnecessary at best. .06? Crap! that isn't anywhere close to intoxicated or impaired in any way. Unfortunately.....it will make you tired if you were already sleep deprived.

As far as selling your rig, I'd try Craig's list or Ebay. It looks like most of the parts anyone would want are wrecked though. Except the driver! :smiley_thumbs_up:

 

This seismic shift in society's attitude towards drink/drive is why I have stopped using alcohol altogether.

I have gone back to recreational drug use and prescription pill abuse.

Drugs got me through the '70s, now I'm hoping they will get me through my 70s.

Anybody need a ride to the Farmer's Market?.

 

Make your jokes until you kill somebody and the cops do a background check and find this comment... yeah, that'll be a good show in court.

 

The point is, in many places .10 is the legal limit. There is NO POSSIBLE WAY kaimusgrove was intoxicated at .065. Ask anyone in law enforcement, they will tell you hands down they would rather you were drunk than asleep. At least a drunk is trying to pilot the vehicle.

I will say it is extremely poor judgement to have a few if you are that tired. Home to bed would have been a better choice than relaxing with a few drinks.

No. I don't buy the don't drink before driving crap. I am not one of those, "oh one more won't hurt" kind of people. 1 or 2 is my limit (not zero not 3+).
NEVER drink too much before you drive. If you can not identify how much that is and stick to it, THEN you better not drink at all.



Common sense people. Common sense. Over reacting is NOT common sense.

 

Umm.... I'll take a stab at this, but I might be wrong. Basically he probably blew in a breathalyzer which guestimates his BAC to be 0.065, or 65 milligrammes of alcohol in 100 millilitres of blood. So by UK law his is not drunk. The problem with breathalyzers is that they are guestimates using a "partition ratio" of 2100 (I think the UK might use 2300). In a normal day a person's true partition ratio will vary from 1500 - 2800 so a normal person through out the day will have a BAC swing of 0.03 BAC, which is significant when you consider the limit is a 0.050 and he blew a 0.065. without truly drawing blood his BAC could not have been determined. But the UK seems to be smarter about it, putting a limit on breath in BrAC. Converting from BAC to BrAC on his breath... .065/2.1 (what I know to be the US conversion).... gives us 30.1 microgrammes of alcohol per 100 millilitres of breath, under the UK limit. using what I think is the UK partition ratio of 2300, .065/2.3, he was 28.3 micrograms of alcohol per 100 millilitres of breath, well under the UK limit.

 

Some folks feel they are invincable and it takes something like this to change their life. I am glad you are safe and that no one else was hurt, but I truly hope you learn from this and think about what could have been.

I don't know you at all, so I will reserve judgement on you as a person, but what I can say is that you have no excuses and should feel the full force of the legal and financial challenges you will have in your future.

It is estimated that here in Ontario Canada a DUI costs upwards of $15,000 in legal fees, ticket, insurance hikes, time off work etc.

From an insurance perspective I sure as heck hope people are not covered if they cause an accident are are intoxicated. That means all other policyholders are paying for damages when morons drink and drive? That is obsurb!

Here is a great (and fun) article by Toronto automotive writer on the topic. Everyone processes alcohol differently. That needs to be kept in mind.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/glob...eney/my-intoxicating-afternoon-with-a-breathalyzer/article2360323/?from=sec2965

 

Everyone processes alcohol differently. That needs to be kept in mind.

Not just everyone. Situations too,

Sometimes I drink enough that I know I'm way over the limit. but I feel no effects of drunkenness. (someone else driving, of course, or at home) Other times, if I'm tired or haven't eaten much, I have my one or 2 and I have asked someone else to drive, even though I know I could easily pass the breath test. If I don't see a driver I trust, I switch to soda and wait until the effects have worn off.

You have to think.
Of course, I'm 49. I'm not going out and getting blitzed any more. Too old for that crap! epper: (at least too old for the day after crap)

 

Even California is a .08, ( was .10 until a few years ago..) lower for under 21, I believe (not sure...) .050. While working DUI checkpoints with the PD, I've had folks blow .222 and higher--now THAT's drunk! And usually represents in a car inpounded for a while, loss of driver's license for up to 6 months, and probably legal and court fees in excess of $10K.

VERY good reason not to drink and drive--after all, what's going on in YOUR life that you need to escape chemically from it????

 

There is a lot of confusion about drink driving in the public domain, as has been expressed in this post

It is not driving while DRUNK, or driving while INTOXICATED, it is driving with some alcohol in your system. Each state/country sets it's own limits as it sees fit

I have dealt with numerous small asian drivers who could hardly stand up, with readings of around 0.07 as well as a few alcoholics who blew around 0.25-0.30 and you couldn't tell they had been drinking at all. People react differently to alcohol

Any alcohol in your system adversely affects judgement/reaction time/ability to concentrate and anyone who says different is a fool

 

Lots of things influence how you drive. The fool is the person who does not know his own (varying) limitations and act accordingly.

 

the problem with alcohol is it affects your ability to judge your ability, if that makes any kind of sense

 

But you can't say that and then hold someone responsible for their actions, as you have done. The law makes it simple by setting the boundaries to which we have to abide, and removing any moralistic prejudice. In this, we would all agree that he is in the wrong.

 

Sorry if I got you wrong. I thought when you wrote "the problem with alcohol is it affects your ability to judge your ability, if that makes any kind of sense", that it was at odds with your previous sentiment in this thread.

I am actually in agreeance with you that people should be aware of their limits [not by virtue of finding them by trial and error!], whether they be imposed legally or physically. For me, I set myself a limit of 2 drinks. I'm not a drinker, but I know it doesn't matter what 2 drinks I consume over a 2 hour period, I will be fine and capable behind the wheel, or even just walking down the street.

 

A lot of people would blow a .065 after just one drink. Setting the limit to .050 is just ridiculously low. Seems more like a way to outlaw alcohol through litigation to me.

I've always adhered to the one drink per hour rule. When I was younger and held a Pennsylvania State Inspection license, I made sure I was never over the limit (which was .10 back then) for fear of losing my license, and my job...but I would still have a few beers over a few hours time. I always finished my nights drinking a coke or a ginger ale.

 

I agree the limit may be low. In Ontario here they reduced the limit from .08 to .05 in the last couple of years. Message = don't drink and drink

Fact is, it is against the law and he took the lives of himself and those around him into consequence.

I have known many over the years who drink a few say they know when they have had enough and almost always, they don't. I have one friend learn his lesson the hard way by losing his life.

If you want to be careful....don't drink at all.

 

I agree the limit may be low. In Ontario here they reduced the limit from .08 to .05 in the last couple of years. Message = don't drink and drink
Fact is, it is against the law and he took the lives of himself and those around him into consequence.

I have known many over the years who drink a few say they know when they have had enough and almost always, they don't. I have one friend learn his lesson the hard way by losing his life.

If you want to be careful....don't drink at all.

mwah ha ha :beerchug:

 

Oh, you speak of the drinks that get you drunk from the legs up - the brain is the last to know when you go to stand up.