Trail rated patriots should have tow hooks, skid plates and should have a "L" on the gear shifter to engage "LOW", not to mention the "trail rated" badge.

 

Thank you ... so it looks like the previous owner of the vehicle I am buying just purchased the badges and stuck them on ...

This is a 2008 by the way. I see no tow hooks and the gear shifter only went to D, no L...

I'm going to demand my deposit back since I was especially excited to get the trail rated version...

 

Good call.

 

Ya, I'd say for sure not a FDII. But what are some more details? Maybe it's still a good deal.

 

It's a 2008, 64k miles, clean history, drives well with no obvious issues and very clean interior for $9.8k.

I'm really disappointed because when I saw the badge my eyes lit up... I drove almost 2 hours to see it and left the deposit all happy to go pick it up tomorrow ....

 

It looks like its still a pretty fair deal, from the outside it has the 17in wheels and fog lights, so it should have a good amount of features. According to kbb.com, my 115,000mi Patriot is worth around $7k, so the price for the mileage on that one seems about right.

 

Maybe it's just me but that price seems high even if it was for a FDII. I bought my 2010 with that same mileage for not much more than that price when it was just under 2 years old.

 

If you're dead set on a fd2 and have the cash and time to wait for one then I probably wouldn't buy it.

Because if you want those specific items and you buy that car then you will just be spending money buying them and time installing.

Not to mention you can't add low to a Fd1.

 

pricing really all depends on where you live. a $12,000 vehicle here in the NW is worth about $9,000 on the east coast.

 

Original ad : http://www.fullerton.com/used.cfm/vehicle/2008-jeep-patriot-sport-1J8FF28W28D537365/

Definitely not a FDII. This is why I'm dead set against people putting Trail Rated badges on FDI's, it's a lie and it's misleading to people that aren't fully informed.

 

This is why I'm dead set against people putting Trail Rated badges on FDI's, it's a lie and it's misleading to people that aren't fully informed.

Maybe that's the point?


BTW; I feel the same way about push-up bras.

 

Yup demand your money back. Anyone can slap a trail rated badge on there.

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Here's this vehicle's build list

http://www.jeep.com/webselfservice/BuildSheetServlet?vin=1J8FF28W28D537365

 

is this a fake Trail Rated Patriot??

An argument could be made that all Patriots are fake Trail Rated



Sorry I couldn't resist.....

 

I am sure my patriot can beat your... oh you have a wrangler rubicon nvm.

 

Yeah that price seems high when you consider it's coming up on 9 model years old, and you can buy a brand new leftover 2015 Patriot for $13.5k if you don't mind a manual tranny and non-4x4.

Our dealer where we got ours has 2016 4x4's for $16k with auto transmission (6 speed, non CVT). Of course, these are Sport trims so power windows would be extra. But it does have AC, cruise control, am/fm/CD.

 

I would have been suspicious based on the badge alone. I believe that's a knock off and not mopar. Unless the Patriot was different in those years. I believe my 05 TJ and '10 Commander are both on a dark gray background. I think it was only recently that Jeep began making it a red background. I don't believe it was ever that light grey/silver background like the Patriot in question.

The suspected (all but confirmed?) fake:

What I believe the OEM should look like

 

What I believe the OEM should look like

In the equipment list on a real Trail Rated Jeep, it will even say "Trail Rated Badges".

Also, I would've gotten on the ground to look at the chassis to see if it's rusty, and that would've let you know if it had the skid plates.

 

I have a friend who bought a trail rated badge and put it on his grand cherokee. He said with the bigger tires he bought, it makes it trail rated

 

Just took a look at the build sheet, anyone notice the "touring suspension"? Haha

Cvt2 is Fdi also. Also lists the autostick feature.

But heres an idea what do customer preferred packages 2DE and 26E refer too? Maybe those include the badges?

 

The 26E is the numerical code for the model number.

My 2008 North FDII was a 28E model. n My 2012 is a 28F

 

To the OP, now that I think about it, I wouldn't pay anywhere near $9k for that Patriot unless it has complete service records available showing that it never missed an oil change (within at least a reasonable mileage range) and transmission service. And people and dealerships being what they are, I am sure it has no records with it.

I prefer to buy privately from the original owners, that way you are more likely to obtain service records, and you can see their house to get an idea if they are careful people or not. I got top dollar for my mom's used Jetta because she had complete service records for it.

Without the records, I'd go like $7k tops for that Patriot.

 

Man this makes me feel worse about paying $10k for a 2010 sport 4x4...with 90k on it.

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dont feel so bad. I paid 11k for an 08 sport with 86k miles lol. it does have the tilting rear seats and fold flat up front though. Those have come in handy. Not really worth paying 2k over, but it was more of a "Can I buy this" situation rather than a "This is the car I really want" so I ended up biting the bullet. 2.5 years and a refinance later and I'm finally under BB in payments!

 

Did you get your deposit back?

 

Over on the portal, Christophe noel compared both the forester and the patriot. he said, the forrester is better on the pavement and the jeep is miles ahead on the dirt.

 

After reading all this how do I determine what I have I bought an 07 sport 4x4 no skid plates but I do have low gear and locking 4x4. In my seirra I had a stick in the glove box with all the codes for what I had is there something like that for the pats


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All 07 autos had low on the shifter, autostick didn't show up until 08, and the t handle for 4wd is standard.

 

Ty


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Thank you all for all the replies and info. After showing the dealer that the car was not trail rated, they did not hesitate to refund my deposit.

On a more positive side, I was able to locate two cars I like, the first is a 2010 Patriot (non trail rated) with 77k miles on it (cvt and hand crank windows) for $9k, the second is a 2008 Liberty (trail rated) with 87k miles and panoramic roof for $10.4k. I like the look and the rugged feel of the Liberty and love that roof, but at same time it worries me about leaks and snow load ... I'm leaning towards the Patriot for it's better safety ratings, better gas mileage, and more agile feel. And this Patriot deal is definitely better than the previous

 

That panoramic roof is known for problems and the cost is unreal to fix them. I do like the looks of the 08 and up Liberty though, but the 3.7 isn't really great on gas.

 

Yeah and having to carry 4000+ lbs it also feels sluggish. Good to know the panoramic roof is plagued with issues, will make me miss it less... I plan to keep this car outside the garage most of the time so it will be snowed and rained on regularly..

Thx for the links, will check them out.

 

I'm guessing you're in NJ? check these out:

http://newyork.craigslist.org/que/cto/5367931000.html

or this:

http://newyork.craigslist.org/lgi/cto/5356859057.html

and

http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/5330806965.html