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6F24 six speed auto stick --2015 Patriot - Fluid Check and Change Info

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6F24 six speed auto stick --2015 Patriot-- Fluid Change Info

Does anyone know what the trans oil capacity is for this transmission???Thank you!! Dave!!!
 
#2 · (Edited)
My 2014 factory service manual states: The factory fill fluid capacity of the 6F24 Automatic Transaxle is 7.5 qt.. Service fill with full torque converter and fluid cooler is 5 qt..

In the service section, they state that after draining (drain plug), add 4.3 quarts. Then start the vehicle and run in neutral for a few minutes. Stop, add 1 quart. Then do the fluid level check procedure and add or remove fluid as needed.

The dipstick part number is 10323A and can be bought online for about $25: https://mopar.snapon.com/online-catalog.aspx. Besides the drain plug, there are two ports. One is the dipstick port and one is the fill port.

Hope this helps.

EDIT 8/2018: There now seems to be an aftermarket dipstick for the 6F24 automatic transmission . Google CTA-1017 for many options under $23. The black finish sucks, but is probably usable.

There also is now also a You Tube video for changing the Patriot 6 speed tranny fluid:
 
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My 2014 factory service manual states: The factory fill fluid capacity of the 6F24 Automatic Transaxle is 7.5 qt.. Service fill with full torque converter and fluid cooler is 5 qt..

In the service section, they state that after draining (drain plug), add 4.3 quarts. Then start the vehicle and run in neutral for a few minutes. Stop, add 1 quart. Then do the fluid level check procedure and add or remove fluid as needed.

The dipstick part number is 10323A and can be bought online for about $25: https://mopar.snapon.com/online-catalog.aspx. Besides the drain plug, there are two ports. One is the dipstick port and one is the fill port.

Hope this helps.
I am aware of the dipstick port,so my question is:WHERE IS THE FILL PORT LOCATED???? Thank you!! Dave!!!
 
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is it not right around the same area? I have not really looked at it yet....I need to get it up on a ramp to have a good look.
 
#6 · (Edited)
Its described as a fill plug on the vent pod located on the front of the valve body pan. That would be #3 on the diagram below. http://www.mopar.com/jeep/patriot/2014/shop/357373/286/5190/
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I'm in the middle of learning more about our trannies. According to this link, our Hyundai PowerTech 6F24 is the equivalent Hyundai A6MF1: http://www.searchautoparts.com/moto.../powertrain-pro-automatic-transmission/little-more-about-6-speed-korea?page=0,2 ....Check out the excellent pics at this link.

This link (and others) state that there is a fill level plug on the valve body pan that is used to "measure" the fluid level. Our factory service manual has nothing about this and confirmation is needed. Seems to be #4 on the picture. Maybe our Patriot trannies are mounted different and cannot use this fill level plug vs. Hyundai vehicles.

Anyway, if you do some Hyundai searches with their transmission model, you can learn more about tranny fluid change (Youtube also). I will edit this as I learn more.
 
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o.k., here's my update to my above post for those interested. Peeking through a triangular opening on the driver side, below the front bumper and through the plastic skid plate, you can see that we DO have the same fill level plug as the Hyundai's - part number 4 in the illustration above. In liew of using a dipstick (tool 10323A -$25), it SEEMS that we could follow the Hyundai/Kia procedure: Car level in all directions. Engine running, tranny at proper temp, fill tranny until fluid starts to trickle out of the fill level hole.

Here's some links: Note - maybe our trannies are mounted different and the front port cannot be used for level checks. This needs verification.

Hyundai factory manual procedure. Click forward arrow to see procedure: ..........kudos to Hyundai and Kia for putting their factory service manual on line for public use.
http://www.hemanual.org/fluid_components_and_components_location-1540.html

http://www.hyundai-forums.com/yf-2011-sonata-i45/174177-atf-drain-fill-pics-those-interested.html

YouTube...note he is wrong in checking level with engine off, and, color is not a good indicator of fluid conditions (verified by Chrysler):

Use this info at your own discretion. I will verify things when I do my own. I don't like universal fluids, so I will use real SP-IV. I hope this clears up the confusion about our trannies being "sealed" unserviceable units. In some ways, they are easier. No pan to drop or filter to change. It has a drain plug! One just needs to follow the procedure: level car, proper temps., proper fluid. Our Hyundai friends think that one should minimally follow the severe service schedule with a 60,000 mile fluid change. Some are doing it more often.

DEFINITELY DIY POSSIBLE AND NOT ROCKET SCIENCE. Save yourself $200-$300 AND keep your tranny healthy.
 
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IMPORTANT FINAL UPDATES TO PATRIOT 6 SPEED FLUID CHANGE:

I added a few edits above since this information was first posted:
- link to a less expensive aftermarket dip stick: http://www.ctatools.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=1527
- link to a You Tube video just for the Patriot www.youtube.com/watch?v=21irJQJkXj0
- warnings to verify using the hyundai method of fluid level checking (front port vs. dipstick). The front port/transmission angle maybe is mounted different on the Patriot vs. Hyundai. See ALLPAR link below.

The Patriot service manual gives a dipstick only method of determining fluid level while Hyundai recommends using the front port plug method to check fluid level.

This is an FCA TSB outlining the second way (front port plug) https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2015/MC-10144906-9999.pdf

NOTE: This following Allpar forum thread describes the new TSB method: It states that our transmission is mounted at a different angle than on Hyundai vehicles. Therefore, after the fluid dribbles out of the front port, you then close the port and add an additional 24 oz. to reach the correct level. The ALLpar thread confirmed that both methods result in the same level, checked with a dipstick at the correct temperature.

https://www.allpar.com/forums/threads/2016-jeep-patriot-6-speed-automatic-fluid.169895/
 
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IMPORTANT FINAL UPDATES TO PATRIOT 6 SPEED FLUID CHANGE:

I added a few edits above since this information was first posted:
  • link to a less expensive aftermarket dip stick: Product not found!
  • link to a You Tube video just for the Patriot www.youtube.com/watch?v=21irJQJkXj0
  • warnings to verify using the hyundai method of fluid level checking (front port vs. dipstick). The front port/transmission angle maybe is mounted different on the Patriot vs. Hyundai. See ALLPAR link below.

The Patriot service manual gives a dipstick only method of determining fluid level while Hyundai recommends using the front port plug method to check fluid level.

This is an FCA TSB outlining the second way (front port plug) https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2015/MC-10144906-9999.pdf

NOTE: This following Allpar forum thread describes the new TSB method: It states that our transmission is mounted at a different angle than on Hyundai vehicles. Therefore, after the fluid dribbles out of the front port, you then close the port and add an additional 24 oz. to reach the correct level. The ALLpar thread confirmed that both methods result in the same level, checked with a dipstick at the correct temperature.

2016 Jeep Patriot 6 speed automatic - fluid
I hope this will help you, I used to have a 2010 Jeep Patriot 2.4L CVT auto transmission, I will list below the part number O Riley said there are two dipsticks, the one was just just a cable with a little ball on the end and no places check oil level for whatever temp. you have and did not have the other but the other store in town had so I went there, they had the dipstick that was described in youtube, it had all the marks for whatever engine/transmission tempt you have. the problem is that the dipstick goes all the to the bottom, so you don't know if you're checking it right.
WHATEVER YOU DO CHECK YOUR DIPSTICK AT THE STORE
O Riley part number DOR 917-327,
I have also been told that it might be posable to use the dipstick from your engine.
Also, you need to know if your transmission is still covered under a factory. if you bought your jeep second hand and not from a dealer you have no warranty. if you do have a warranty, you must keep up maintenance done by the dealer, do your services as recorded in your owners manual, O and by the way, a new CVT transmission cost $ 8,000
but my dealer could have got for just under $6,000. May 12th, 2020
 
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Hi everyone

Im new in the comuniti (and with my jeep patriot 2015) and I can see that you know a lot of the AT 6 speed or have experience.

I have some questions, maybe you can help me.

1. I saw in the beginning of the post that total capacity of the ATF is 7.5 qt, ande the service is about 5 qt, that is right?

2. what kind of fluid you use? the manual says that we need to use Mopar ATF SP-IV, but in the market i just find the ATF SP-IV M, Is it the same (without M and with M)?

3. Did you replace the transmision filter (Mopar 68192984AA)?
If only the fluid, how recommended is this (use the same filter)? and how recommended is replace the old filter? I see that is a little complicate replace it, and I want to know what the community recomend?

Thanks
 
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I did not confirm the fluid capacity. I ended up letting my MOPAR mechanic friend do my first tranny fluid change (i was dealing with family health crises).

SP-IV M is the newest, upgraded ATF specification-the only one to use. Valvoline Maxlife claims to "meet" this spec.. Using aftermarket universal ATF is a controversial subject - not going there, but I've read convincing evidence that some of these OEM fluids are not as proprietary as they claim. Oops, said I wasn't going there, LOL. Link: http://starparts.chrysler.com/starlibrary/marketing/chemicals/20567_ChemicalCatalog_3_10_16.pdf

The filter is NOT user serviceable. You need to break open the transmission case in order to get to it. Numerous manufacturers are going this route, so there is little use for us old guys to even complain about it.
 
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Only change the filter if you are rich and have money to dispose of. Again, the filter is considered non-serviceable. The transmission has to be removed from the vehicle in order to open up the case and replace the filter. I have no idea of the book rate for this, but it must be well over $1,000. Most transmission filters are considered only to be "rock catchers". They only filter out the bigger chunks of debris. Change the fluid every 30 - 60 thousand miles and you will be removing most of the fine wear debris. Some people install Magnefine external filters on a transmission line, but I have not looked into this for our vehicles (had one on my Caravans). https://www.magnefinefilters.com/
 
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I'm trying to change my fluid in a CVT tranny on my Pat. Everything I see online says there should be a tube on the driver side to check the oil level with an aftermarket dipstick. My Pat doesn't have that tube. According to what I have found in research a non CVT will have a plug under the battery box, however my VIN brings back that I do have CVT2 installed from the factory. I have found a tiny black plug closer to cab with a small hose leading under the radiator hoses however I don't think that's the tube I'm looking for.
 
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The CVT fiill tube is located between the radiator and the engine on the drivers side. Unfortunately, sometimes this tube can break off.

Anyway, here's a pic of it (vertical metal tube with cap off and hose running into it):

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and the tube cap looks like this:
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#36 ·
Here is all I'm finding in the general area but its more located between the battery box and the engine but more like behind the battery box a bit. That hose with black cap is a breather hose that you will have to open when filling your transmission with fluid, to me it looks like u might have a 6 speed n not a cvt transmission. The only way u can find out is by looking at the angle your transmission is positioned. If its postioned upright, most likely its gonna be a 6 speed tranny.
 
#27 · (Edited)
The fill plug for the 6 speed transaxle is located on the left top back side of the transmission [by the firewall] and the fill plug can be seen when looking down behind the motor on the drivers' side.Ya have to look over the top and down in back to see the plug.You'll need a 15/16 socket to remove it and a special tool [dip stick] to check the oil level with! The transmissions level should be 25MM when the transmissions oil temp is approximately 115-120*F.And the oil; and filter change interval is at 100,000 miles.[per the shop manual]
 
#29 ·
Five years ago,when I first bought wifeys' 2015 Patriot brandy new,which came with the 2.4 L motor and the 6 SPD Auto Stick Trans Axle,and like every vehicle I buy new or used,I ALWAYS do an inservice inspection on the vehicle to check it over and and correct anything I find wrong, especially if it's bought brandy new from a dealership..
Anyways,when I did mine,everything was good,except I could not check the transmissions' oil level because I needed that special dip stick,which I bought,but had to wait several days to get. Then I was able to check the transmission oil level.Well guess what??? It only took THREE QUARTS to bring it up to spec,meaning,the dealership NEVER CHECKED IT. So what does that tell ya??? No wonder so many people are having transmission problems!!
 
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6F24 six speed auto stick --2015 Patriot-- Fluid Change Info

Does anyone know what the trans oil capacity is for this transmission???Thank you!! Dave!!!
First I must ask where did you buy it? Is there any possibility that it could still be under? Till you have answered this question, don't touch that transmission. If you're not sure, ask a dealer? If it is still under warranty, the dealer must change the oil
# 2 does your 2015 Jeep Patriot. Have a dipstick because the one I have doesn't, so even if you do change your trans. Fluid, how will you know when it's full. You're talking about $8,000 or more for the transmission, and you won't find anyone to work on them. How many miles is on it? If you change the oil your self you won't be able get rid of the oil that still up in the transmission and what in the torque converter. are there any problems with the transmission know?
On my 2010 Jeep Patriot, I was having trouble with it slipping real bad, dealer checked it and said that the pressure was low they said I had a choice. As for which oil I will need to find my owner manual