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2014 jeep patriot 4X4 catalytic converter issues

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#1 ·
Hi fellas -
I need some advise and newbie here as well.
I have a 2014 jeep patriot 4X4 which I got 3/2020 and haven't had much issues besides maintenance and replaced worn out parts but I may or may not have an issue with the catalytic converter manifold. When I bought it, the catalytic was new since the engine was swapped out as well at that time. What my mechanic tells me is that the part itself is notorious to start cracking due to the heat it gives out and how it was created. The part itself is about to be replaced for the 3rd time since it didn't pass inspection in Texas. When it was changed out the 2nd time, it wasn't cheap to replace. I spent about 800 for the part itself plus labor which was about 1000 I believe.

Now my question
Is it true that the catalytic converter manifold will start cracking due to the pressure/heat that it does through and the design is flawed to began with?

The only reason I noticed I was having issues with it again was when I was standing still at a light and I started to smell the exhaust inside the cabin and had to turn on the recirculation so I wouldn't smell it anymore. The part lasted about 1 to 1.5 years before that started to happen and didn't have any issues during that time.
Now is this normal for this 4 wheel drive vehicle? I was told my my mechanic that the transfer case had to be built different and the design for the catalytic converter manifold is different from a 2 wheel drive so that's why it starts cracking and doesn't hold pressure anymore. Or is there a well know part that I don't know of that doesn't start cracking? The part is from Auto Zone and that's where my mechanic got it at the time since a lot of places had a long wait time.

I will be keeping this Jeep but just have the issue with the catalytic.
 
#2 ·
Welcome to the group. AFAIK, there's no difference between 4x4 and 2wd maniverters. It's very seldom that I hear of one cracking. So, it's not a common problem but it's not unheard of either. Also, there is no transfer case on the 4x4. It's a very small PTO that drives the rear axle whenever the front wheels are moving. When you pull up on the 4WD lock lever it engages an electronic clutch in the rear end. Anyway, if your maniverter is cracked, I would suggest taking to a welder, it'll be MUCH cheaper than replacing it.
 
#3 ·
..the design for the catalytic converter manifold is different from a 2 wheel drive..
Correct, the 2wd is different from the 4x4 due to space constraints from the rear drive line parts.

The 4x4 exhaust manifold and primary catcon are integrated into one unit (maniverter). The 2wd has a separate manifold and catcon.

4x4 maniverter
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2wd

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#5 ·
Ah, this answers my question that I posted the other day. All the youtube videos on replacing o2 sensors show the 2wd setup which confused me as it did not look like my vehicle. Mine looks like the top pic. The videos I found show the setup like in the bottom pic. Mystery solved. Thanks! So its the 4wd version that is prone to cracks?
 
#6 ·
So its the 4wd version that is prone to cracks?
Yes, primarily where the 4 ports come together.

 
#8 ·
Weld if possible, replace when you have too.

It can get cracks anywhere it's welded / seamed, those places mentioned were common at the time.

I can't say how long it will last after re-welding, but it's worth a try considering the cost of a new one and how hard to find they can be.
 
#9 ·
Well. Since we’re on the subject of Catalytic converters that crack, I have a question. My Patriot now has 154,900 miles on it. I have been experiencing a check engine light on and off for about three years. Most recently it has come on and stays on. No performance issues noted and I get a code P0420 Catalyst System below threshold Bank 1. I’ve decided to replace the Catalytic converter and found that my Patriot has California emissions. My Patriot is registered in Arizona and will NEVER be registered in California going forward. Can I replace the CARB Compliant catalytic converter with an EPA Compliant catalytic converter without harming any other engine components ?
 
#10 ·
Got a 2014, I just replaced the cat myself. It was cracked up top and underneath. I bought it used. I get why mechanics charge what they charge to replace it. The part cost me like $100 but took me a week to get it out and back in. Royal pain. I really hope I don't have to do it again. I've only had it 1.5 yrs.