The official Jeep press release says all Patriots will be equipped with "drive controlled, three-mode ESP." As far as I can tell that's a 1st for Jeeps. Any idea what those three modes will be? Maybe off-road, snow, and normal? All I can see in photos is a ESP off button.
Three-mode ESP?
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I have had reason to use the esp all the way off. Mine does show "off" on the dash board" so I'm assuming that it really is off. I know that it would be unacceptable to me because of the driving that I do if it didn't work or if I wasn't able to see on the dashboard which mode it was in. When you are in a situation that you need it off you usually don't have time to play with it and guess just what the car will do.:doh:
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«Regrettably, your vehicle model was not equipped with the emblem "ESP DISABLED" as indicated in your vehicle's owner's manual.»
Regrettably isn't acceptable and is not a proper answer. I would not accept this coupon as it would show my acceptance of compromise.
So why don't they put one in (ESP OFF cluster) with the chime also?
Regrettably isn't acceptable and is not a proper answer. I would not accept this coupon as it would show my acceptance of compromise.
So why don't they put one in (ESP OFF cluster) with the chime also?
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Cause I'm cool that's why.... :rockon:
Probably the way I worded my email.....I wasn't very polite.
wow.... that answer from chrysler is just... ignorant!
Everyone that has an issue with this should get together and contact a legal office or the better business bureu to see what can be done because clearly chrysler is not too worried about solving the problem.
The way i see it, if there are identicle vehicles out there that this does work on, and yours doesnt, then its a problem tha needs to be fixed and not just shrugged off as "your vehicle is not equipped with this".
Everyone that has an issue with this should get together and contact a legal office or the better business bureu to see what can be done because clearly chrysler is not too worried about solving the problem.
The way i see it, if there are identicle vehicles out there that this does work on, and yours doesnt, then its a problem tha needs to be fixed and not just shrugged off as "your vehicle is not equipped with this".
Especially since the users manual says "ALL 4x4 models" function by displaying ESP OFF with a chime. I get no chime, no display and no confidence that it is in full off or partial off mode. Guess for my safety sake I best just leave it on ALL the time.
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from another thread concerning this matter:
Got a phone call from my dealer's technician this morning. He took on him to check the Pats in the yard. It seems Patriots with automatic transmissions don't have this problem (he says, but they do from owners on this site affirmation) so he took a manual transmission Patriot on the lot no ESP OFF mode working, flashed the computer and messed up the ABS system. Told me not to come for a flash...you bet I won't!!!
Her says Wranglers 2007 had this problem, took a year before a TSB was out.
So guys with no ESP OFF mode in dash cluster, how could we constitute a pressure group on Chrysler? I think we need a list of owners with this problem
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Come on folks.....
I agree, it is a complete waste of time to send emails to Chrysler. As the instruction manual is very clear and all 4WD(4x4) models need to be able to fully disable ESP they have to fix it.
Take it to your dealer, if they do not fix it simply follow the lemon law process (CAMVAP in Canada).
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I agree, it is a complete waste of time to send emails to Chrysler. As the instruction manual is very clear and all 4WD(4x4) models need to be able to fully disable ESP they have to fix it.
Take it to your dealer, if they do not fix it simply follow the lemon law process (CAMVAP in Canada).
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If you read carefully the response that I got from Chrysler, it works even if the ESP OFF doesn't show in the odometer...
Unless someone confirmed that it doesn't work on 2008 models (I don't talk about the showing of ESP OFF but that the ESP is really off according to the manual) ?
I spoke with my friend, he has a TJ trail rated with big tires and all. We'll do some experience on sand once I'm back from vacation. We'll videotape it and I'll post here to confirm if ESP, when in mode full off, is really off or not.
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Thanks for doing that so fast! But I get that display light when I press the esp switch. Shouldn't there be a light that comes on saying "esp off" (for holding it more than 5 seconds) for those of you with that working? could you take a photo of that?
Someone posted a video on this and I cannot find it, so I took my own. Sorry for the quality, as it was taken with my phone and converted to WMV.
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Start engine, press ESP switch, let go for Partial ESP mode.
Hold ESP button which turns ESP back of for 5 seconds while I'm holding the button, then goes to ESP Off.
Then I re-enabled ESP, then held it for 5secodns that goes ESP Partial, then off. I cycled through the odo/temp and the ESPoff message goes away, even though it is still off.
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Start engine, press ESP switch, let go for Partial ESP mode.
Hold ESP button which turns ESP back of for 5 seconds while I'm holding the button, then goes to ESP Off.
Then I re-enabled ESP, then held it for 5secodns that goes ESP Partial, then off. I cycled through the odo/temp and the ESPoff message goes away, even though it is still off.
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