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2014 Cherokee
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The V6 sounds like about the same MPG as my FDII, and should have more power. Interesting they added a locking diff. in the rear, for what sounds like the same as our FDII. I've had all 4 wheels spinning many times, so just not sure the locking diff. would make a lot of difference?
In all my other 4x4's I've wanted lockers front and rear, so I can get all 4 wheels to drive me, but the FDII seems to work as well IMHO.
In all my other 4x4's I've wanted lockers front and rear, so I can get all 4 wheels to drive me, but the FDII seems to work as well IMHO.
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the patriot does it by using the brakes, making you loose power by friction, locking diff, you don't have the power loss.
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They do on the active drive 2, and on the front of the active drive one, but once the locker is engaged, i'm sure they disable the bld's on the rear of the active drive lock (assuming, I don't know) because they would work against each other.
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The locking rear diff( ADL )is only available on the Trailhawk.
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The BLD's dont NEED to be disabled on a locked differential. In the BLD system, a wheel sensor detects a difference in wheel speed between one side of the axle and the other. With a locked axle there IS no difference. They dont disable, they just dont engage. They are still present on both the front and rear, for the TCS system.
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My 2012 Wrangler Sport was the base model, the only option it HAD was A/C, and it was only 19K.
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Still having tranny issues with the new one it looks like:
http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2013/10/2014-jeep-cherokee-shipping-still-on-hold.html
http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2013/10/2014-jeep-cherokee-shipping-still-on-hold.html
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With the re-flashed Cherokees being shipped this week it looks like the only thing left to do is go see it in person.
Change, whether you like it or not, is ongoing in every aspect of life.
I haven't had a PC in years, but don't have a tablet yet, but will someday.
As much as I liked the Patriot when it came out, the Liberty II and Commander were both huge let downs in performance, look how they ended up.
I do agree that it will be a few years before we let go of our Patriot, may be even three years. I think the wife is leaning towards a rag top, no not a Wrangler.
There is a good article on Allpar about Texas Test Drives. A good read about what they felt about the different drivetrain and motor options. They liked the Tigershark and the Sport 4x4 for most mixed driving, so maybe you won't need all the bells and whistles afterall. Just sayin'....
Change, whether you like it or not, is ongoing in every aspect of life.
I haven't had a PC in years, but don't have a tablet yet, but will someday.
As much as I liked the Patriot when it came out, the Liberty II and Commander were both huge let downs in performance, look how they ended up.
I do agree that it will be a few years before we let go of our Patriot, may be even three years. I think the wife is leaning towards a rag top, no not a Wrangler.
There is a good article on Allpar about Texas Test Drives. A good read about what they felt about the different drivetrain and motor options. They liked the Tigershark and the Sport 4x4 for most mixed driving, so maybe you won't need all the bells and whistles afterall. Just sayin'....
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Well folks, I was at my dealership the other day getting my CVT's fluid replaced (150k, replaced once at 90k) and had a look at the new Cherokee. Impressions:
First off, it's smaller than I expected: it doesn't seem to be physically any larger than a Patriot, so if it's a replacement for the Liberty and not the Patriot, I think there's something wrong with that angle. I say this w/o looking at the specs sheet, just using my eyes.
But here's a bigger point: It's cargo area appears no larger than the Patriot's, and it may even be smaller (!) Again, I just used my eyes here, and it seems to be a small SUV like the Patriot, with same the exact same cargo carrying capability. It did have a nice under-the-floor below a latch that will be useful for carrying stuff, and a full sized spare under that. But that didn't really increase the cargo volume. It's roofline in the back may be slightly higher than the Pat's. The ones I saw didn't seem to have a cargo area dome light either (that's odd).
It definitely has a higher quality cabin than the Patriot -- yeah, that isn't exactly saying much, but it does have a quality feel. The LCD screen looks great too, but note that it isn't standard and the little radio screen that comes with the low-end Cherokees looks pretty basic. The backseat area definitely has more foot room though I would not call it good either, just better than the Pat's.
All the Cherokee's there were 2.4L, 4 cylinder engines. I didn't test drive one but wonder if the new 2.4s are better than my 2007's which is OK but not super refined.
The prices were high - I would off the top estimate that they are $6 - 7k higher than a comparable Patriot. Yes, the two supposedly don't exactly compare, but using big items like the size of the vehicle, cargo area, passenger volume, and engine size, they just seemed to have used the same formula as the Patriot.
Next time I'll test drive one -- I didn't like the sales guy there that day pestering the *%#&$P# out of me to buy one on the spot.
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First off, it's smaller than I expected: it doesn't seem to be physically any larger than a Patriot, so if it's a replacement for the Liberty and not the Patriot, I think there's something wrong with that angle. I say this w/o looking at the specs sheet, just using my eyes.
But here's a bigger point: It's cargo area appears no larger than the Patriot's, and it may even be smaller (!) Again, I just used my eyes here, and it seems to be a small SUV like the Patriot, with same the exact same cargo carrying capability. It did have a nice under-the-floor below a latch that will be useful for carrying stuff, and a full sized spare under that. But that didn't really increase the cargo volume. It's roofline in the back may be slightly higher than the Pat's. The ones I saw didn't seem to have a cargo area dome light either (that's odd).
It definitely has a higher quality cabin than the Patriot -- yeah, that isn't exactly saying much, but it does have a quality feel. The LCD screen looks great too, but note that it isn't standard and the little radio screen that comes with the low-end Cherokees looks pretty basic. The backseat area definitely has more foot room though I would not call it good either, just better than the Pat's.
All the Cherokee's there were 2.4L, 4 cylinder engines. I didn't test drive one but wonder if the new 2.4s are better than my 2007's which is OK but not super refined.
The prices were high - I would off the top estimate that they are $6 - 7k higher than a comparable Patriot. Yes, the two supposedly don't exactly compare, but using big items like the size of the vehicle, cargo area, passenger volume, and engine size, they just seemed to have used the same formula as the Patriot.
Next time I'll test drive one -- I didn't like the sales guy there that day pestering the *%#&$P# out of me to buy one on the spot.
G
I've been wondering about a lot of the points that you've brought up here. Jeep has serious leeway when it comes to pricing between the Patriot/Compass and the comparable Forrester, loaded Sportage or RAV. All are about 6K more expensive, if dressed comparably to say, a Latitude.
Speaking size, storage, etc...that you've discussed above, I wonder if this new Cherokee is really what's to completely replace the Patriot in the next couple years as the "smaller" SUV for Jeep? It's quite a bit smaller than I was expecting........
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Jeep is actually working on a replacement for the patriot/compass that would be smaller than the cherokee.
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are you talking about the new panda based vehicle? that will actually fit under the patriot/compass. They will keep the patriot/compass for at least another model year or two.. then replace both with 1 vehicle named either the patriot or the compass.
The Cherokee is a bit bigger, though I grant that its not by much. We're only talking about less then two cubic feet more of interior cargo room in a vehicle that is about 8 inches longer.
But size isn't the only thing that factors into different classes of vehicles, especially for a brand like Jeep that just does variations on the SUV. The Patriot (and whatever succeeds it) are meant to be a step-down in several areas compared to the Cherokee, just like the Cherokee is meant to be a step-down in several areas compared to the Grand Cherokee even though all three are roughly the same size. Interior quality, styling, power, etc., are what differentiates the vehicles, not the size.
That said, the Cherokee is doing quite well so far and I suppose Jeep may change their minds about what the best way forward would be in terms of a lineup of vehicles. But the best current info we have is that in a few years we will have a small Jeep based on the Fiat 500L, a compact relatively inexpensive SUV that replaces the Patriot and the Compass both, then the Cherokee, then the Grand Cherokee, the Wranglers, and perhaps a larger Jeep like the Commander. We'll just have to see.
But size isn't the only thing that factors into different classes of vehicles, especially for a brand like Jeep that just does variations on the SUV. The Patriot (and whatever succeeds it) are meant to be a step-down in several areas compared to the Cherokee, just like the Cherokee is meant to be a step-down in several areas compared to the Grand Cherokee even though all three are roughly the same size. Interior quality, styling, power, etc., are what differentiates the vehicles, not the size.
That said, the Cherokee is doing quite well so far and I suppose Jeep may change their minds about what the best way forward would be in terms of a lineup of vehicles. But the best current info we have is that in a few years we will have a small Jeep based on the Fiat 500L, a compact relatively inexpensive SUV that replaces the Patriot and the Compass both, then the Cherokee, then the Grand Cherokee, the Wranglers, and perhaps a larger Jeep like the Commander. We'll just have to see.
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The Grand Waggoner is expected to be a seven passenger Jeep, one step above the Overland JGC.
Not known if the GW will replace the Dodge Durango, since it is selling quite well.
Will have to wait and see.
The Grand Waggoner is expected to be a seven passenger Jeep, one step above the Overland JGC.
Not known if the GW will replace the Dodge Durango, since it is selling quite well.
Will have to wait and see.
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Stopped by the dealer today and talked to the owner's boy for a bit. After our talk he is ordering in 2 4WD Cherokee Latitudes for me optioned out the way I would want a Cherokee. 1 with 4cyl and 1 with 6 cyl otherwise the same( pretty much ). When they arrive I can decide which I want and buy if I want. I am not getting anything hard for them to sell if I decide to hold off so they are getting them without any deposit or commitment. I just haven't seen one optioned the way I would want so they are going to get me 2 and let me pick if I decide to do it. Most likely in about 3 months I will have a Cherokee if the #'s work out. :wow:
Nice! If I had my choice....and $$$, it would be the Latitude v6. I just think that's a neat setup. What color and wheels????
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2LZ - Only the Sport model has a wheel option. You can pay $995 to upgrade from the standard 17" steel wheels to the 17" aluminum wheels that are standard on the Latitude. The Limited comes with 18" aluminum wheels, and the TH comes w/ it's own unique 17" aluminum wheels. No option other than on Sport models.
Most likely this will be what I go with if I buy one...
Model Info:
Latitude
2.4L I4
Active Drive I 4WD( I decided not to spend $995 on ADII - overkill for me really and has a small MPG hit - hoping ADI can handle the slippery boat ramps )
Firestone Destination LE2 225/65R17 ( I am happy these are the OEM tires )
$26,495.00 Base Price
Color:
Morocco Black Cloth ( Interior - only acceptable one for me )
True Blue Pearl Coat ( Exterior Choice 1 )
Granite Crystal Metallic ( Exterior Choice 2 )
Brilliant Silver Metallic ( Exterior Choice 3 )
Interior Options:
8.4A Nav Ready Radio - $695 + $500( Nav Activation - Dealer Charge ) = $1195.00
Alpine 9 Speaker Premium Sound System - $395.00
Option Packages:
Tow Group - $495.00
Cold Weather Group - $795.00
Destination Charge - $995.00
Final Sticker - $29,870.00 + $500( Nav Activation ) = $30,370.00
Possibilities...
3.2L V6 - $1495.00
Comfort/Convenience Group - $1995.00( $1795 - see below )
I would "like" the V6 but not sure I want to spend $1500 for it and get less MPG. I think if I spend anymore than the definite things shown above I would get the C&G Group as I would get a lot of very useful things for the same approx. price vs just the engine up-grade.
The C&G group has some goodies I would like such as the backup camera, power liftgate, no key ignition, and the dual zone AC. I don't care for the power seats and other things. Also, seeing as I would get the Cold Weather Group which has remote start already it cuts the C&G Group option down to $1795.00
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