My Patriot has pulled to the right since new. I noticed it driving home on HWY. Dealer says they can't check alignment because they don't have the specs yet. Does this make sense? Anyone else have similar experience? I'll be checking back w/ dealer to see if they have any new info. If not I think I'll call DC and ask whats up.
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Mine pulled to the right, did an alignment and swapped the 2 front tires, now pulls to the left. Steering shakes at 60-65mph.
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I have been told the same thing about the designing them to pull slightly to the right. Both my 07 Pat and my 06 Town and Country pull ever so slighlty right. I hate it, but my wife claims it is safety feature. The shop I took the Town and Country to said the same thing. Dam safety...
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Update on my pulling: I took Patriot to a Good Year Tire Dealership. They concluded that after my tire rotation rear to front the 1st time, then front R to front L the 2nd time and still pulling that I have two front bad tires. The Good Year dealer said distribution center is out of this size and will take 2 days to get with no charge to me which is wonderful! He said they are about $130 a tire.
Anyways if I do this will there be any kind of abnormal wear/tear to transfer case or any other part of Jeep being that I will have 2 front new tires and two rear tires with 11,500 miles on them? The Good Year dealership said I barely had any wear on the front tires and wouldn't be a problem.
I just want other's opinions here since my Jeep Dealership wouldn't help me resolve this issue. They kept telling me the 3rd time around that they couldn't even feel it pull! I feel like calling them and telling them odd because the Tire Dealership test drove for only 5 minutes and determined bad tires.
BTW I called Jeep and they told me Dealership won't warranty a tire that I'd have to call Good Year. This is how it's done I guess. Upset that the Service manager didn't lead me into the right direction & tell me to call Good Year from the start!
Anyways if I do this will there be any kind of abnormal wear/tear to transfer case or any other part of Jeep being that I will have 2 front new tires and two rear tires with 11,500 miles on them? The Good Year dealership said I barely had any wear on the front tires and wouldn't be a problem.
I just want other's opinions here since my Jeep Dealership wouldn't help me resolve this issue. They kept telling me the 3rd time around that they couldn't even feel it pull! I feel like calling them and telling them odd because the Tire Dealership test drove for only 5 minutes and determined bad tires.
BTW I called Jeep and they told me Dealership won't warranty a tire that I'd have to call Good Year. This is how it's done I guess. Upset that the Service manager didn't lead me into the right direction & tell me to call Good Year from the start!
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I thought I was the only one with this problem. First off I am glad I know I am not the only one, secondly, it is getting me mad that the dealerships are giving a hassle. I plan to take my Pat in this Saturday to get it aligned. I have a slight to barely minimal pull to the right. Just like another poster said, "[just enough to notice]".
I had a problem with a dealership where I bought my last vehicle.
I ended up calling and writing to crysler about the vehicle and the dealer.
About a week later,I recieved a call from the dealer that everything would be done and covered.
Sometimes you have to talk to the big guy.
I ended up calling and writing to crysler about the vehicle and the dealer.
About a week later,I recieved a call from the dealer that everything would be done and covered.
Sometimes you have to talk to the big guy.
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2007 Patriot Pulls to the Right
Hi,
At least I am not the only one having this problem. Maybe someone can help me!!!!
I purchased my 2007 Patriot in July of '07. Everything was great, except about a month after I bought it, it began pulling to the right. Since I had to travel an hour away to where I bought it, I thought I could take it to the Jeep Dealer 10 minutes from my house. What a mistake!! They ended up telling me it was the crown of the road and that no pull was felt. Well, I ended up writing down the milage when I dropped it off and checked it out when I picked it up, not even a mile difference! Enough to drive it from the parking spot, to the garage (if that) and back to the parking spot.
About 3 days later I decided to drive the hour to where I bought it. They had it over night, and I had to come back the next day to pick it up and it was fixed! They adjusted the toe, and said that they centered the steering wheel. Also check the tire pressure and sensors. "It was fixed! YAY!!!" and then I thought this was over.
NOPE!!!
It lasted for about 5 months, then it began again. So I thought it was just from driving it. Last week I had to take it in to get an oil change, and have my clutch pedal looked at also because it would make a "squeak" or "grinding" sound (best way I can discribe it) so I also had them do an alignment and hopefully it would be fixed. No! They said they adjusted the toe, and centered the steering wheel because it was to the left. They also checked the tire pressure, everything was good. It was still very noticable! So, now I have to take it back this Tuesday (This is the 4th time now!!!!!!!) so they can replace my clutch pedal assembly. If it is not fixed this time, I don't know what to do. I am starting to worry because the warranty will be up in July because of the 12 months. I refuse to pay for alignments for something that has been looked at a lot already!!!
I would appreciate ANY suggestions, or help!!!
Don't get me wrong, I love my Jeep and wouldn't trade it for anything, but I don't want all of these headaches either!!!!
Thanks!!!
Hi,
At least I am not the only one having this problem. Maybe someone can help me!!!!
I purchased my 2007 Patriot in July of '07. Everything was great, except about a month after I bought it, it began pulling to the right. Since I had to travel an hour away to where I bought it, I thought I could take it to the Jeep Dealer 10 minutes from my house. What a mistake!! They ended up telling me it was the crown of the road and that no pull was felt. Well, I ended up writing down the milage when I dropped it off and checked it out when I picked it up, not even a mile difference! Enough to drive it from the parking spot, to the garage (if that) and back to the parking spot.
About 3 days later I decided to drive the hour to where I bought it. They had it over night, and I had to come back the next day to pick it up and it was fixed! They adjusted the toe, and said that they centered the steering wheel. Also check the tire pressure and sensors. "It was fixed! YAY!!!" and then I thought this was over.
NOPE!!!
It lasted for about 5 months, then it began again. So I thought it was just from driving it. Last week I had to take it in to get an oil change, and have my clutch pedal looked at also because it would make a "squeak" or "grinding" sound (best way I can discribe it) so I also had them do an alignment and hopefully it would be fixed. No! They said they adjusted the toe, and centered the steering wheel because it was to the left. They also checked the tire pressure, everything was good. It was still very noticable! So, now I have to take it back this Tuesday (This is the 4th time now!!!!!!!) so they can replace my clutch pedal assembly. If it is not fixed this time, I don't know what to do. I am starting to worry because the warranty will be up in July because of the 12 months. I refuse to pay for alignments for something that has been looked at a lot already!!!
I would appreciate ANY suggestions, or help!!!
Don't get me wrong, I love my Jeep and wouldn't trade it for anything, but I don't want all of these headaches either!!!!
Thanks!!!
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The oldest story in the book
That story that they are aligned to pull to the right for safety is the oldest pile of BS in the barnyard. That has never been the case and will never be the case. They are designed and should be aligned to be straight and true.
I don't have the problem, but I would suspect the tires myself. Has anyone checked the inflation? I'm not talking about the 35psi rule or relying on the flat sensor. Just for the heck of it, I would suggest pumping them up to about 40psi or whatever is marked on the tire and see how it is.
It's like that old joke.....
Detroit auto makers only have three requirements for tires.
1. They're black
2. They're round
3. They're cheap
... and the first two are optional.
By the way, for the person with the sqeaky clutch. There is a service bulletin on that. You don't need the assembly replaced. It just needs to be lubricated with a tube of white, lithium grease.
That story that they are aligned to pull to the right for safety is the oldest pile of BS in the barnyard. That has never been the case and will never be the case. They are designed and should be aligned to be straight and true.
I don't have the problem, but I would suspect the tires myself. Has anyone checked the inflation? I'm not talking about the 35psi rule or relying on the flat sensor. Just for the heck of it, I would suggest pumping them up to about 40psi or whatever is marked on the tire and see how it is.
It's like that old joke.....
Detroit auto makers only have three requirements for tires.
1. They're black
2. They're round
3. They're cheap
... and the first two are optional.
By the way, for the person with the sqeaky clutch. There is a service bulletin on that. You don't need the assembly replaced. It just needs to be lubricated with a tube of white, lithium grease.
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OK. Everyone listening? I had my '07 Sport 4x2, 20,000 miles, aligned about a month ago. It was pulling to the right just a bit which generally means there's a problem on the opposite side. I took it to a tire dealer/alignment specialist I actually trust (he's done 4 of my vehicles in the past and the fellow's a freak for detail). There's only one adjustment available. That's toe. The other set points are factory set and locked. Look on the inside tread of your left front tire. It's probably feathering or wearing a bit too much. Anyway, that fixed the pulling. He also X rotated the tires (without rebalancing, and no, there's no problem with Xing these tires). Now in 5 or 6000 miles, I'll have the tires balanced and rotated again.
Get this checked out. Besides the annoyance of pulling to the right, the condition is wearing out your tires.
I have had the same problem with my new 08 Pat. Pulls to the right in any situation. When I took it to the dealer and asked them to check the alignment, they called and said it was "tire pull". I've never heard of this, but let them work on it. After three days in and out of service, they had replaced two tires and claimed it was good. Drove it home... same pull to the right. I been waiting for an opportunity to take it back again.
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An alignment deals with 3 main measurments. Camber Caster and Toe. Caster is the main measurment that can cause the vehicle to pull to either side. Also if you have a severe camber issues you can get a pull. As far as I know Caster is non-adjustable in the Jeep Patriot which is why a lot of you are having problems getting the pull fixed. Tires can also cause a pull. HUNTER makes a wheel balancer that can measure tire pull. Call tire shops in your area and ask if they have hunter model GSP9700. The balancer can measure the pulling force in each of the tires and the direction in which they pull. The balancer will show where to put each tire so that you won't have a pull, the bad thing is that when you rotate your tires the pull can come back...
I think it's probably the case with decreasing profit margins that the auto companies try to shave pennies here and there, and one way is on crappier tires. I've never been happy with the tires put on by the factory, they generally suck in snow and have no other redeeming qualities. I noticed on my '08 North Edition that there are large weights on the rims which is indicative of the quality of the tire. The better the tire, the true'er it will run and therefore shouldn't require much lead on your rim to balance.
I haven't noticed the pull to the right, but my fiancee has, so maybe I'll pay closer attention to it. I tend to drive 9-3 all the time so I mostly have a firm grip on the wheel so maybe that is why I haven't noticed. Once these tires are done I'm putting some Yokohama Geolanders on, had those on my Pathfinder and loved them.
I haven't noticed the pull to the right, but my fiancee has, so maybe I'll pay closer attention to it. I tend to drive 9-3 all the time so I mostly have a firm grip on the wheel so maybe that is why I haven't noticed. Once these tires are done I'm putting some Yokohama Geolanders on, had those on my Pathfinder and loved them.
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I picked my Patriot LTD up on May 1st.
I notice a slight pull to the right.
I had the dealer perform an alignment at 300 miles.
All the specs were dead on.
It still pulls slightly to the right.
If I'm driving on the extreme left lane of the interstate it pulls slightly to the left, in the middle lane it rolls straight.
If I drive on the left side of a one way street it pulls left.
I'm blaming the crown of the road.
I notice a slight pull to the right.
I had the dealer perform an alignment at 300 miles.
All the specs were dead on.
It still pulls slightly to the right.
If I'm driving on the extreme left lane of the interstate it pulls slightly to the left, in the middle lane it rolls straight.
If I drive on the left side of a one way street it pulls left.
I'm blaming the crown of the road.
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My steering wheel is no longer level after my first visit to dealership for oil change + tires rotation. They'll schedule for an alignment, but probably I'll try this first.
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Jeep STILL pulls!!!!!!
Well, my Patriot still pulls to the right! Took it to the dealership seven times, they had done everything. Alignment after alignment, X crossed the tires....didn't work. Crossed the front two tires...Jeep ended up pulling to the left because the tire was worn so bad, so they ended up giving me 4 brand new tires since they thought it was the tires.....NOPE! Still pulls. So I met with a Chrysler Rep and he couldn't even drive my 5 speed! :Racing:
This is so pathetic! I called AND emailed Jeep/Chysler and nothing was done. I am so mad at Jeep, and this dealership I am dealing with. The Service Advisor I am dealing with made me come back up the 7th time for an alignment because they "couldn't find" the specs from the other ones. Does anyone know if that is something they keep? I would imagine they would keep it on the computer, especially if a Jeep has been in there multiple times for the SAME PROBLEM!!!
Is anyone still having the same problem??
Sorry I'm venting, I'm just VERY UPSET with JEEP now!
Well, my Patriot still pulls to the right! Took it to the dealership seven times, they had done everything. Alignment after alignment, X crossed the tires....didn't work. Crossed the front two tires...Jeep ended up pulling to the left because the tire was worn so bad, so they ended up giving me 4 brand new tires since they thought it was the tires.....NOPE! Still pulls. So I met with a Chrysler Rep and he couldn't even drive my 5 speed! :Racing:
This is so pathetic! I called AND emailed Jeep/Chysler and nothing was done. I am so mad at Jeep, and this dealership I am dealing with. The Service Advisor I am dealing with made me come back up the 7th time for an alignment because they "couldn't find" the specs from the other ones. Does anyone know if that is something they keep? I would imagine they would keep it on the computer, especially if a Jeep has been in there multiple times for the SAME PROBLEM!!!
Is anyone still having the same problem??
Sorry I'm venting, I'm just VERY UPSET with JEEP now!
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My fiance has 2011 patriot pulled to the left .... tires wore uneven told them four new tires and check the alignment, he says tires on alignment is fine.... still pulled to left literally i diagnosed and fixed the issue via some crawling under googling some parts of the rear its 2wd btw.... its the rear toe angle its the only adjustment you can really do the left rear was cocked In making the rear push the right making the front pull to the left.this also fixed the damn humming I hear alot of people complain about online in the rears of these. Don't buy into oh its tires your alignments fine. You can check it your self with a jack and a cake pan filled with about 2 inches of dampend play sand .make sure steering wheel is straight Jack the vehicle up on level ground slowly lower one tire into the cake pan allow full weight to be on the sand jack it back up slide out the cake pan carefully pay attention to the tread depths all over the impression and the angle of the tire in or out deeper on inside of tread or outside . From there you can figure out your adjustment that needs to be made. I was taught this by a old school muscle car mechanic and it hasn't failed me yet . As long as you make the right adjustments you can't make it worse least you'll get a bit better on the pulling . Hope this helps you guys out. As you can see from the pic it was toed in pretty harshly how a so called certified mechanic didn't notice it is beyond me.
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