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How in the world did someone manage to flip a Prius??


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you would be amazed at what people can flip. between where I work and where I live, there is a highway, the 347. Not a week goes buy that I see at least 2 vehicles that have flipped and rolled. Its a very straight piece of road, and perfect for some high speed driving (in my old saab I got well over 160mph on it, racing what was an undercover cop.... but that's a different story). but I've seen trucks to hybrids, to hondas, to big rigs on their side, upside down, and rolled multiple times. The worst are the bike accidents though...
 
you would be amazed at what people can flip. between where I work and where I live, there is a highway, the 347. Not a week goes buy that I see at least 2 vehicles that have flipped and rolled. Its a very straight piece of road, and perfect for some high speed driving (in my old saab I got well over 160mph on it, racing what was an undercover cop.... but that's a different story). but I've seen trucks to hybrids, to hondas, to big rigs on their side, upside down, and rolled multiple times. The worst are the bike accidents though...
Too bad the patriot won't get up to 160 ? haha. I live closer to the city so there's not really anywhere to just open it up and go, you get much above 80-90 you're asking to run over some 85 year old running 50 in the fast lane, either that or get a ticket from the cop who is ever so kindly hiding at the bottom of that nice long hill who's just waiting to write you a pretty ticket for wreckless driving. So, we don't have the problem with people flipping over due to high speeds that bad. Most people just like to drive like a maniac, with their nearly worn down tires, and end up hydroplaning off of the interstate. The only vehicle that I've personally ever seen flip over in a while was an F-250 which was hauling a big camper trailer. It was on the other side of the interstate though. And yes, the bike accidents are always so bad to see.
 
Wet weather, looks like the person went sideways across the lane and hit the barrier and the rest was history.
IIRC the prius comes with low rolling resistance tires, which I've had on a couple of vehicles. they are like driving on tires made of hard plastic. and are worthless when its wet.
 
you would be amazed at what people can flip. between where I work and where I live, there is a highway, the 347. Not a week goes buy that I see at least 2 vehicles that have flipped and rolled. Its a very straight piece of road, and perfect for some high speed driving (in my old saab I got well over 160mph on it, racing what was an undercover cop.... but that's a different story). but I've seen trucks to hybrids, to hondas, to big rigs on their side, upside down, and rolled multiple times. The worst are the bike accidents though...
Absolutely. I've been driving the same corridor for the better part of 10 years and I've seen some of the strangest accidents take place.

Just this week, there was a Ford Escape that was buried in the trap rock of an embankment that was next to an off ramp buildup. Not only was the Escape buried in the trap rock but it was at least 100' feet UP the embankment. If you didn't know better, you would have thought the person was trying to climb the hill and got buried.
 
I'm not freaking out yet but oh well...it's gonna be the new baby Jeep. That's all I know and can say so far. I'm hoping it keeps the round headlights but the rest could change some lololol
 
Cherokee and now this...the end is nigh.
As noted, its a "mule," meaning the only thing you can really take from the photos is the size. Which was already known. And it looks like an Alfa Romeo because that is the platform they are using to test internal mechanicals, not because that is what it will look like.

The car industry is global now, with cars being built everywhere and sold everywhere. Little compact SUVs are taking off in many places, so it makes sense for Jeep to try and get in on some of that action, if only for the global market. But it doesn't make any sense for them to build them in the US, just like just about every other small car now is built elsewhere. Besides, its not taking away Jeep jobs since the three plants that currently build Jeep models are all at full capacity anyway.

Besides, we don't know if this little Jeep will sell here anyway. Even if it does, it will simply be a gateway vehicle that will lead people up the Jeep line over time. Just like a lot of Patriot and Compass owners have ended up moving on to Wranglers, Grand Cherokees, and Liberty/Cherokees.
 
As noted, its a "mule," meaning the only thing you can really take from the photos is the size. Which was already known. And it looks like an Alfa Romeo because that is the platform they are using to test internal mechanicals, not because that is what it will look like.
Actually, this mule is based off of the Fiat 500L if I'm looking at it right.

I have to say, for a mule, this suggests some promising and encouraging things about the production model:

  • It's based off the 500L and 500X platform which means it will likely be boxy.
  • It appears to have a conventional seven-slot grille.
  • The platform already is designed for round headlamps (the 500L's specifically) meaning that it's more likely than not that the vehicle will have round headlights this time around.

My concern is that the Jeep stylists will try way too hard to differentiate the Jeep from the 500L and 500X and end up with a Jeep that looks less like a Jeep than the 500X platform it's based off of. The 500X is going to be a looker, with round headlights and a pretty nice looking overall styling. (For example, I think this image of it is rather pretty: http://indianautosblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Fiat-500X-side-profile-rendering.jpg) There's no need to reinvent the wheel with the B Jeep's styling. Just reduce the rakishness of the rear hatch and add the requisite Manley Jeep elements (headlights, grille, wheel arches) and I think you'll have something rather stunning to look at.

Besides, we don't know if this little Jeep will sell here anyway. Even if it does, it will simply be a gateway vehicle that will lead people up the Jeep line over time. Just like a lot of Patriot and Compass owners have ended up moving on to Wranglers, Grand Cherokees, and Liberty/Cherokees.
I hope they sell it here. I ended up not buying a Patriot in favor of a Ford Ranger because of interior ergonomics (I found that the plastic cover underneath the steering column hit my legs when I went to test it out and I didn't like the way it made it harder for me to move my foot to the brake pedal, plus I found visibility to be a PITA). I think the new Jeep with better fuel economy, a reasonable price, and a nicer interior will be something I'll seriously consider.

It doesn't need to be a gateway vehicle, it's a simple AWD vehicle for people who need to get through snow and mud. Just make it better than a Subaru in rough conditions (as Subaru, I think, is today's Jeep competitor for a no-frills AWD car) and I think that would be mission accomplished.
 
^ Yeah, almost everyone hates the Cherokee.

@ Luigiian; I'm gonna guess you were looking at a pre 2011 model pat cause the interios are extremely nice these days, I loved mine and I wouldn't be in a Wrangler if it had a basic interior that wasn't like my old Patriots.
 
^ Yeah, almost everyone hates the Cherokee.
Unfortunately, it appears more and more people are beginning to warm to it. Oh well, as long as the new B-Jeep caters more to people turned off by the Cherokee's styling...

@ Luigiian; I'm gonna guess you were looking at a pre 2011 model pat cause the interios are extremely nice these days, I loved mine and I wouldn't be in a Wrangler if it had a basic interior that wasn't like my old Patriots.
I sat in a 2012 model. It was nicely detailed inside but I didn't like the tiny windows and plastic pieces underneath the steering column. It felt cramped and the revisions to the interior unfortunately didn't change that to my disappointment.

(Just so you know though, I haven't been completely satisfied with the Ranger. If anything happens to it I'm probably going to end up going to a Patriot next time.)

And now for my latest eye torture sketch...

If the Fiat 500x looks like this: http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2012/07/2013-fiat-500x-peek.jpg

...then a rebadged Jeep version might look something like...


Don't laugh at my drawing skills there... I put like, at least 30 good seconds into that awful thing... :wow:
 
Actually your drawing is not too bad - especially for thirty seconds (I actually teach art). I would guess the back end will probably look similar to what you drew, but I certainly hope they would square it up.
 
I concur, that drawing doesn't look bad. I'd drive that and deal with the "I'm taking your man-card" threats rofl

@ Luigiian; I can understand the small windows and such. Still better than the Caliber MK's interior...SHEESH! If anyone's ever tried to sit in one of those you'd wanna rip the roof and plastic off so you can see behind you. The damn thing is a blind spot nightmare lol
 
1 design feature i am curious about is the rear window spoiler,
i see it on just about every SUV now,
is it soley for aerodynamics?
looks more like to give it a false square look,
everytime i see it i see myself breaking it loading my roof basket,
or leaning my kayak up against it.
1 design feature i can do without.
 
I'm sure the Sport models wouldn't have it but yah it's mainly for looks, I doubt it'd affect aerodynamics too much.
 
If I recall the spoiler is supposed to keep the rear glass somewhat cleaner by redirecting the airflow from the low pressure area behind the vehicle
Exactly! That's what it's supposed to do. I just wonder if it works. Driving the Patriot on wet roads really gums up the rear window.

Spoilers on cars do not affect anything in the aerodynamics until you go over about 130 or 150 MPH if I remember correctly.
 
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