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the 305 hp GEN II 4.6 in the 08's is the way to go
"4.6"??? maybe you mean the 4.7L ????? didn't know Mopar HAD a 4.6L ANYTHING:confused:


....."honey, they shrunk the commander"..........:D
now THAT'S funny!!!! :D

I wouldn't mind the HEMI, either. :pepper:
DUH! who wouldn't? i was just thinking on the way home from work last night how nice it would be to even have the "4.7L" V8 in my Compass. now that would be one "Kickass Compass"....;)
 
Help with Photoshop

Someone please take that first photo of the Commander beside the Patriot and clone the headlights onto the Patriot from the Commander, so it will look like a tiny Liberty.

It seems like we already have the correct little angle cut in the plastic grill piece that would accomodate this change for later maybe 3 years from now when they need to make model update anyway.
 
I really wanted a Commander. However, they need to offer a 5 speed transmission and a version of the vehicle with low end appeal like the 25D package in the Patriot. Jeep needs to recapture the idea where the vehicles are actually useful. Vehicles where you can throw firewood of garden supplies in the car and not worry about the fact that the car cost more than your first house. The Commander must be offered with a diesel to get the mileage up to an acceptable level.
 
Someone please take that first photo of the Commander beside the Patriot and clone the headlights onto the Patriot from the Commander, so it will look like a tiny Liberty.
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compass - 1 series - A series

patriot - 3 series - C series

liberty - 5 series - E series

commander - 7 series - S series

just a lil comparison to European cars :p
 
Personally I would have preferred the Circular lights on the Commander as it's more Jeep-like
yeah, but those lights look good too. although yeah, 7 slat grills and the circular lights are what resemble a jeep
 
If you're looking at Patriot and CMDR, I think with the financial incentives, you can get a Cmdr for about $2k (or less) more than the Patriot, however, there is the MPG factor, and it does take more space in traffic and the garage!
 
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Hmm... I wonder if they'll ever come out with a conversion kit for the Commander to go with the round headlights. That actually looks pretty good!
 
Thank you, for the photoshopping
 
When I was looking at Jeeps I considered a Commander because the incentives for it caused only a $9000 spread between the two. The interior appointments of the Commander were amazing. The mpg sucked but what REALLY sucked in the Commander was the 6th & 7th passenger seating in the rear. They are just seats on the cargo bed really. There is no footwell!!!. Then if you want to use the back to stow cargo, you must place that cargo on top of that seat. This means you are lifting your groceries to not just past the bumper like in other Jeeps, you have to lift beyond the thickness of the folded down rear seat as well. Not a great design at all. The rear seat would suit a baby or toddler in a car seat at best.

I found the best in class for 7 passenger seating to be the Mazda CX-9. It was excellent in passenger room - blew away the Acura MDX, GMC Acadia, Saturn Outlook and especially the Commander.
i'm TOTALLY confused by this....how can one compare the Commander to the Patriot? it's like comparing a Lincoln to a Fusion. the only common thread they have is they both have FOUR DOORS. you complain that the Commander had NO footroom for the rear seating area. so, tell me how much footroom does your Patriot have for it's 6th and 7th passenger? WHAT? you can't even GET 6-7 people in a Patriot? you're very lucky to get 5? :doh:

for me, i TOO would have loved to have the Commander with all the extra room, with or without the extra seating. BUT the MPG's do suck, even for the 3.7L (i may as well kept my Unlimited).....SO i decided an MK was the way to go. i chose the Compass over the Patriot because of the 'nicer' base model. i HATE vinyl seats!
 
Offer options individually

i'm TOTALLY confused by this....how can one compare the Commander to the Patriot? it's like comparing a Lincoln to a Fusion. the only common thread they have is they both have FOUR DOORS. you complain that the Commander had NO footroom for the rear seating area. so, tell me how much footroom does your Patriot have for it's 6th and 7th passenger? WHAT? you can't even GET 6-7 people in a Patriot? you're very lucky to get 5? :doh:

for me, i TOO would have loved to have the Commander with all the extra room, with or without the extra seating. BUT the MPG's do suck, even for the 3.7L (i may as well kept my Unlimited).....SO i decided an MK was the way to go. i chose the Compass over the Patriot because of the 'nicer' base model. i HATE vinyl seats!
This is why it is so important for companies to offer as many options as they do. Any why I am so mad that the combine them in packages. The vinyl seats in the Patriot is what sold the car for me.

I wanted power windows, but I did not want a key less remote. So I have manual windows. I wanted the navigation radio, but I didn't want all the stuff that comes on the Limited. I wanted Freedom drive 2 but I also wanted a manual transmission. Basically, they failed to sell me many of the expensive options I wanted because they were not offered individually.

Individual options are the best way to get buyers what they want.
 
If you buy off the lot

This is why it is so important for companies to offer as many options as they do. Any why I am so mad that the combine them in packages. The vinyl seats in the Patriot is what sold the car for me.

I wanted power windows, but I did not want a key less remote. So I have manual windows. I wanted the navigation radio, but I didn't want all the stuff that comes on the Limited. I wanted Freedom drive 2 but I also wanted a manual transmission. Basically, they failed to sell me many of the expensive options I wanted because they were not offered individually.

Individual options are the best way to get buyers what they want.
you are basically limited to what that specific dealer ordered,
if you build and order your Jeep,
You can get many of the features your requested,
such a power windows without keyless remote,
Manual FDII, Nav on a sport,
many of the power options are a bargain when packaged together,
such as the limited with its power , AC, auto, etc,
limited is about $2K more,
individually those features would be more like $3K
 
Not only that, but if you "roll your own" and get just the combo of options you want, you also get this cool dealer sticker that says the car was made for you! Very cool to have, especially when the Patriot becomes a collectors car 30 years from now.
 
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