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Great write up!

I've used a bit of fuel line I have laying around. I cut a length of it, slip that over the end of the spark plug and start turning the plug with that to help prevent cross threading. But the TJ uses I think 3 coil packs spread over 6 cylinders. It's all one big assembly so you can't really use the coil to turn the plug.
 
I posted this in another spark plug thread, too; sorry if this looks redundant. I just put new NGK platinum plugs in my Patriot. Its all the store had for Patriot replacements so I thought I'd give them a try. Nothing to gap and the box advises against trying.

Anyone have comments on platinum plugs? Only problem I had was that the old ones came out fairly hard. Usually once broken loose they'll come out just turning with my fingers. I had to use my ratchet most of the way. I used anti-seize when I installed them and thankfully they weren't seized, but they turned hard all the way out. Had me scared at first -- thought they'd been cross threaded when I put them in.

Also noticed a ring of brown crust around the base of the porcelain. Scrapes off with the fingernail -- just surprised to see it. Gets heavier moving toward the driver's side.
 
Great write-up...the one clarification I would offer is to turn the wrench COUNTER-CLOCKWISE to loosen, and CLOCKWISE to tighten.

Changed them at 29,500...given a rare 48-degree day in early February in Michigan to work on the Riot outside, I figgered it was close enough:p

Decided to go with the $1.99 Champs...If I'm changing them this often, I don't need the fancy-pants patinums or iridiums or whaddever they call 'em...

All but one gapped @ .44....that one was .48......interesting to see how that will help gas mileage...right now I'm getting between 26-27 for combined freeway/street driving....not bad for winter....or given these 40+ degree temperatures, the lack of it...
 
Don't worry guys, I feel like an idiot too: I'm at 40K mi and just realized I'm 10K mi overdue for new plugs...perfect project for this weekend as I'm doing my oil and tire rotation as well :)

And speaking of rape in this thread...my mother-in-law got charge $150 by the dealership to CHANGE HER WINDSHIELD WIPER BLADES!!! I was irate and told her to get it done for free at Advance or Auto Zone. Only problem is, she kind of lives in BFE and is kind of old so would rather drive to the dealership than drive 2-3x as far for a parts store to do it.
I put it in pespective by telling her the $10 in fuel and 20-30 extra minutes she'd spend driving is probably worth saving ~$125 by just paying for the blades themselves and getting a free install...
 
my mother-in-law got charge $150 by the dealership to CHANGE HER WINDSHIELD WIPER BLADES!!!
Did they do something else, too? If its only the blades, I think you should go see the dealership, and if necessary work your way to the owner's office and get an explanation (and refund). Don't let them take advantage of an old lady. $50 would be outrageous. $150 is 3X beyond outrageous.

Frankly, I'd push for a 100% refund and a letter of apology signed by the service manager, just for trying a dirty trick like that. Failing that I'd go to the local media. If nothing else, scan the invoice, and start a thread here and post it for all to see. Include the dealer's name and e-mail address -- maybe a pile of e-mails from all of us on Jeeppatriot.com would help persuade them.
 
Well, one thing us 2.0 owners can finally brag about - our spark plug changes are quicker since we don't have to wrestle with the plastic engine cover.

Now, our acceleration from the red light - definitely not quicker....
 
Ignatz - thank for the support. Unfortunately, this happened over 2 years ago and my mom in law didn't tell us about it until about 6-9 months after the fact...and with her being in NC and us being in MA it wasn't realistic to do much about it at the time. So I very emphatically explained to her that she got taken advantage of and that the next time she needs new wiper blades, she won't spend more than $30 for premium blades and installation at Advance or Auto Zone.

She sent me the receipt at the time, and I'm pretty sure they charged her what is very obviously an outrageous markup for the blades (maybe $50-$70 for Bosch or Rain-X...something they could pass off as 'the best you'll ever own') and then an hour's labor. Seriously?!? An HOUR to swap out wiper blades?!? I can change the same 2 front and 1 rear blades on any car in less than 10 minutes...maybe 15 if I enjoy a beer in the meantime. Overall it was very disappointing to hear about something like this, but since then, she's learned a valuable lesson...and she stopped going to that stealership haha.
 
Alright - almost two weeks after I proclaimed the need for new spark plugs, it finally happened...

Had a nice 'maintenance trifecta' weekend: Midas oil change for $15, took about 20 minutes...local shop did tire rotate and balance for $20, took about 30 minutes...I did the plugs for ~$12, took about 20 minutes.

I would've never imagined that any of those three things individually would impact MPG very significantly, but i've driven ~700 miles since all three were performed and I'm averaging almost 5MPG more than before! I'm probably 70% city 30% highway...still driving the same routes to and from work/gym/etc, still driving the same way I always have, and getting 25MPG vs ~20MPG before this maintenance...thrilled about it!
 
Thanks Ignatz - I'm thrilled! Like I said, I would never imagine that any of these three components would have increased my MPG significantly if performed independently, but according to my EVIC, it seems like the combination of the three at the same time did some favors for my ride :)

I didn't do any pics or 'how to' on the plugs because Schoat did such a great job initiating this thread...but I did want to share how much it seemed to improve my MPG.
 
Anybody who can tell me how long the extension for the socket should be. I do have an extension of 2 inch long. Would this be enough?
 
Not nearly. I use a 6" and its barely enough. If I wasn't so cheap I'd get a longer one. Another inch would help, another 2 inches would be sweet.
 
Oh, and Jorisss, in Schoat333's original post he listed the anti-sieze compound as optional, but I'd strongly recommend it. I used it, and they still came out hard the next time. I was a little more generous with the stuff the second time.

In Schoat333's original post he also suggested using the coil pack to start the new plug because it helps avoid cross threading. That is clever and it works. The coil pack might also be useful for retrieving the plug if you don't have an actual spark-plug socket with a rubber insert. Just a thought.
 
Not nearly. I use a 6" and its barely enough. If I wasn't so cheap I'd get a longer one. Another inch would help, another 2 inches would be sweet.
Thanks for the info Ignatz. Just bought a 6" extension, together with the 2" extension I should be able to reach the spark plug.
Already bought anti-seize compound and dielectric grease.
Will change the spark plugs today or tomorrow and hope they will make a difference (see http://www.jeeppatriot.com/forum/showthread.php?t=94162 )
 
Hi I have a question I recently bought a 2007 patriot limited and the car has a lil vibration at idle and it gets a lil more with the ac on, also when I brake a lil hard the rpms go passed 800 but when I push the gas it's smooth could this be a bad spark plug(s)? Thanks oh the car has 49,000 miles
 
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