I picked up my Patriot over the weekend, and it came with the Goodyear Wrangler SR-A tires. I was told they aren't very good in the rain... how true is this?
Wrangler SR-A Tires
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OK guys--and gals. With over 253,000 miles driving on Wrangler Tires--the RT/S that are OME to my XJ, they are the best type of tire for MY style of driving. I have never had any problems with hydroplaning during rain, nor do the tires break loose during NORMAL takeoffs. They have been excellent tires for me. I drive thru one of the worst areas in the country for lake effect snow--the South Bend, IN area and they have never failed me.
253,000 miles on 4 sets of tires. You do the math as to the milage these tires bring to the table. As a matter of fact, I just replaced the Wrangler ST tires on my wife's WJ with a set of RT/S tires.
When I hear someone bashing a tire, I just think to myself that they haven't found the correct style of tire for their particular way of driving.
OK guys--and gals. With over 253,000 miles driving on Wrangler Tires--the RT/S that are OME to my XJ, they are the best type of tire for MY style of driving. I have never had any problems with hydroplaning during rain, nor do the tires break loose during NORMAL takeoffs. They have been excellent tires for me. I drive thru one of the worst areas in the country for lake effect snow--the South Bend, IN area and they have never failed me.
253,000 miles on 4 sets of tires. You do the math as to the milage these tires bring to the table. As a matter of fact, I just replaced the Wrangler ST tires on my wife's WJ with a set of RT/S tires.
When I hear someone bashing a tire, I just think to myself that they haven't found the correct style of tire for their particular way of driving.
Just one thing will make tires perform well. A tire must be inflated correctly; every 10 degrees F changes air pressure 1 PSI.(read that somewhere) Pressure must be check when cold. Only tire problems I have ever had in 25+ years of driving 30,000 miles per year were caused by foreign objects. Invest in a premium tire gage and save yourself time and money.
Tires also oxidize (weather check) any cracks in the sidewall and replace that puppy. I ride a motorcycle also and with only two tires between me and the road I inspect my tires every time I ride and at least every couple of days on the Jeep and more often when the temperature changes widely.
As we on two wheels like to say "Keep the Rubber Side Down".
And yes manufacturers sometime screw up.
Check this out
http://www.cbc.ca/consumers/market/files/cars/cycloid/
http://www.1010tires.com/tech.asp?type=tires
Love this forum great group of people here.
Tires also oxidize (weather check) any cracks in the sidewall and replace that puppy. I ride a motorcycle also and with only two tires between me and the road I inspect my tires every time I ride and at least every couple of days on the Jeep and more often when the temperature changes widely.
As we on two wheels like to say "Keep the Rubber Side Down".
And yes manufacturers sometime screw up.
Check this out
http://www.cbc.ca/consumers/market/files/cars/cycloid/
http://www.1010tires.com/tech.asp?type=tires
Love this forum great group of people here.
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Having the discipline to get the tires rotated every 6,000 miles or so will do wonders for a tire's performance.
Also, I keep the tires relatively clean and do Armor-All them throughout the year.
Also, I keep the tires relatively clean and do Armor-All them throughout the year.
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Check out the Goodyear Wrangler SilentArmor tires. I am running them on both my Commander and my lifted Cherokee. They work great on-road and off-road... on dry pavement, rain, and in snow.
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Most Liberties came with SR-As and we all try to get rid of them ASAP. They are very thin walled (easy flats) and have terrible wet traction. They have got to be the worst big name tire I have ever owned. Once you move up to Silent Armor Goodyears, you can tell the big differences. I would never buy the SR-As
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SR-A v SilentArmor
You should expect better performance from a more expensive tire.
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I don't have the statistics in front of me, but I highly doubt that ALL Liberty owners ". . . try to get rid of them ASAP". Maybe in your club that is the case, but the average Joe just doesn't go out and buy new tires.
While I don't use SR-A tires, I am sure they are adequate tires for the average driver, who MIGHT do mild off-roading. BTW, that is the type of off-roading they were designed for--not for being an off-road warrior.
The key: Use the tire for what it was designed for, or buy a different tire.
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Wow, being a bit literal aren't you
This is not based on a "Local Club" but the "L.O.S.T. Forum" and responses over the last 6 years. The point was that no matter what kind of driving style or situation, there are not many people on L.O.S.T. that are happy with the OEM Goodyears. I had them on my 2002 and we (MOST OF US) hated them then...now on my 2006 I ran them to 24,000 miles and replaced them for the same reason...they are not a very good tire at all and there are less expensive replacement tires available that work better.As for "The key:"...they do not really measure up in day to day use. They have bad grip wet or dry...ect, ect, ect.
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I had to order my Patriot today as they could not find what I wanted. My dealer DID check with his supplier and the Michelin's have not been made in the 215/65-17 size yet. They may be available by the time the car is built, but not right now. If you were going to replace the Goodyear Wrangler tires, what brand and model would you suggest (the "you" is anybody).
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Which model of Michelin? I got a set of Michelin HyrdoEdge's put on a few days after I got my Patriot in the 215/65-17 size.
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.Wow, being a bit literal aren't you
As for "The key:"...they do not really measure up in day to day use. They have bad grip wet or dry...ect, ect, ect.
I still see a lot of Libertys with ST tires on their vehicles.
It is still NOT most of the Liberty owners. As someone else mentioned--and is taught in marketing 101--more dissatisfied customers voice their feelings than people who are happy with a product.
Give me any tire and I will be able to use it comfortably for the SITUATIONS IT WAS DESIGNED. Even the Wrangler ST, which I didn't like, I was able to go anywhere within the limitations of the tire's design.
Well, I'm a commuter, 95% of my time is on the highway. The only off-roading I will ever do is if I slide off the road in the middle of a winter snow storm. I've gotten stuck in the snow too many times and wanted to go 4WD this time. So I'm not really concerned about how they're going to do climbing rocks or running through streams. I do need tires that will get me from point A to point B, sun, rain, or snow, safely.
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Let me put this in a way that I think the original poster of this thread was alluding to...I have not heard of anyone praising the Stock OEM tires...
As to your marketing 101, that is just a way to say "I don't know the answer". This is a forum where answers are based on personal and group experiences. I am not going to take this to a ridiculous level to be right or wrong...or win the debate...enjoy
Your last statement says basically nothing...I have a tire...it will do what I need as long as that it was designed for...I don't like it...I could go anywhere...except for limitations inherent with the tire. That is pretty helpful.
I think I will too, just wanted to see if anyone's had any specific troubles... I know they aren't the best tire, but I never really had that expectation. Just want to make sure there's not any big surprise waiting for me.
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They're great, nice and grippy on dry and wet surfaces, and should be equally good in the snow.
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