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Helping my Dad with his 2016 Jeep Patriot. Engine light has been on for months. First garage couldn't find anything. Messed with new gas cap, sealing grease did nothing. 2nd garage found the sensor was always at a value of 8? Dropped the tank to change the sensor - first question: Was that really necessary? I thought it was on the top next to the fuel pump. I got a Haynes Repair Manual from the library but this is an annoying book that I finally found won't even get near any emissions stuff.

Back to the 2nd garage again (ran out of time last visit) they found a BRN/TAN wire that they said should be grounded but isn't. The writeup says they would "need to change the fuse box" I found that they soldered a wire at the PCM in the engine - I didn't want to disturb the wires so I'm not sure if that's actually the BRN/TAN one. Second question: Is that wire somehow part of the "fuse box" They said it passed the emissions check but it still needs tires before it would pass inspection (not due until next month). I saw a nice diagram over on another post - guess I can't link it here.=

Thanks in advance for any opinions / information!
 
Was that really necessary? I thought it was on the top next to the fuel pump.
The sensor is part of an in-line assembly (2012+) that's above / behind the fuel tank, and there's apparently no access through the cabin from above. They might have been able to do it without dropping the tank, but would have probably been harder:




Is that wire somehow part of the "fuse box"
Per the diagram from the service manual, that wire runs from the sensor to the PCM, it doesn't go to the fuse box / TIPM.

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The sensor is part of an in-line assembly (2012+) that's above / behind the fuel tank, and there's apparently no access through the cabin from above. They might have been able to do it without dropping the tank, but would have probably been harder:






Per the diagram from the service manual, that wire runs from the sensor to the PCM, it doesn't go to the fuse box / TIPM.

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The sensor is part of an in-line assembly (2012+) that's above / behind the fuel tank, and there's apparently no access through the cabin from above. They might have been able to do it without dropping the tank, but would have probably been harder:






Per the diagram from the service manual, that wire runs from the sensor to the PCM, it doesn't go to the fuse box / TIPM.

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Thanks so much! That garage seems to be trying to save my Dad money. Unfortunately, there's been quite a bit of time and money spent and the check engine light is still on. At least this diagram shows BR/TN as a return so that fits together. Is changing that wire harness impossible? It's not a leak because I've never seen the P0455/0456 codes
 
Is changing that wire harness impossible?
Not impossible but I'd expect more cost.

If the CEL is still on, I'd check to see if it's the same code or if there's something else.

According to the service manual, P1457 takes one fault to set the code and three good trips to clear it.

You may need to run through a drive cycle to reset it:
 
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Not impossible but I'd expect more cost.

If the CEL is still on, I'd check to see if it's the same code or if there's something else.

According to the service manual, P1457 takes one fault to set the code and three good trips to clear it.

You may need to run through a drive cycle to reset it:
Good to know about taking 3 trips to clear. I'm not with the vehicle so I don't know if it went off. Maybe the garage knew the sensor input had been fixed. But they said the light would probably come back on. Is the EVAP solenoid a suspect because they never touched that. Since the code says "tank pressure too high" it seems to follow that the solenoid is what controls that pressure.
 
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