So I have been doing tons of research on the pat and have a question. Why is the pat so cheap. A nice one in Indiana a person could pick up for around 18,000 out the door.
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Richard
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Jeep Patriot is about the best vehicle deal I've come across period. Ive researched it, years, before buying it. I didn't buy patriot until Feb 2015, until I found one, and it passed the inspection. There was one I test drove in 2013, and a friend of a friend mechanic, put it on the rack, and found some really bent stuff, defective and said he wouldn't pay more than 5 k for it. I told the dealer owner, what Ronnie said, and the owner got mad.
Ive put quite a bit or a lot of money into patriot. Just had a cvt fluid filter change, crankshaft position censor, four times since 2021, 300$ three times, one time he replaced it , since he put it on recently. Today mechanic put a blinker on, when blinker worked fine, it was the right parking light, he said they do the same thing, but as a delivery driver, I know if my blinker wasnt working and it has been. Well the blinker wasnt repaired. Took it back and have to take it back again I feel he overcharged me, which I already paid today, then get home, and have to drive back to dealership. Didn't bring phone with me. Anyways these things happen.
Overall, reliable and performance ,Patriot has been good. Visually, not as cute or pretty as it once looked because sides and hood is starting to peel heavily now. I noticed Patriot hoods tend to do this easily. I paid 600$ a few years ago to get sanded down and repainted . I may just buy what replaced the patriot,a compass, @Ignatz, 2019 2nd gen compasses or above are best right? Nothing under 2019? possibly this year not saying for sure, because despite the money ive put into it, it seems to be running well, maybe its just me being materialistic but seeing newer nicer cars, compared to patriot with peeling hood and sides, I know its best not to care what people think, and if it is working for me, okay. Have the money top buy compass for around 20 k. Have other funds, I want to buy mortgage a house, and find a few tenants, to help with mortgage payment. Aka House hack. but buying a 20 k compass isnt breaking the bank.
Ive put quite a bit or a lot of money into patriot. Just had a cvt fluid filter change, crankshaft position censor, four times since 2021, 300$ three times, one time he replaced it , since he put it on recently. Today mechanic put a blinker on, when blinker worked fine, it was the right parking light, he said they do the same thing, but as a delivery driver, I know if my blinker wasnt working and it has been. Well the blinker wasnt repaired. Took it back and have to take it back again I feel he overcharged me, which I already paid today, then get home, and have to drive back to dealership. Didn't bring phone with me. Anyways these things happen.
Overall, reliable and performance ,Patriot has been good. Visually, not as cute or pretty as it once looked because sides and hood is starting to peel heavily now. I noticed Patriot hoods tend to do this easily. I paid 600$ a few years ago to get sanded down and repainted . I may just buy what replaced the patriot,a compass, @Ignatz, 2019 2nd gen compasses or above are best right? Nothing under 2019? possibly this year not saying for sure, because despite the money ive put into it, it seems to be running well, maybe its just me being materialistic but seeing newer nicer cars, compared to patriot with peeling hood and sides, I know its best not to care what people think, and if it is working for me, okay. Have the money top buy compass for around 20 k. Have other funds, I want to buy mortgage a house, and find a few tenants, to help with mortgage payment. Aka House hack. but buying a 20 k compass isnt breaking the bank.
I've no problem with the 1st generation Compass. It's a sibling to the Patriot. The later years of the 1st generation Compasses, like the Patriots, did not have the CVT and are more desirable. While I prefer the performance of the CVT, the necessary maintenance makes it expensive to operate and if neglected, prone to failure. I know -- I replaced two CVTs. Thankfully, both were covered by the lifetime warranty.
The first years of the 2nd generation Compasses (2017 & 2018) had an oil consumption problem that was rectified by a computer update. Anyone buying a 2017 or 2018 Compass should keep a close eye on their dipstick until they are sure it is OK -- if oil is disappearing, then they need to get the update. The update is free because it was a recall, not an extended warranty, and it applies to any subsequent owner. 2019-2021 seem to be problem-free.
The 2022 Compasses have had a problem with the radio volume fading after a few hours. Worse, Jeep has had a dickens of a time correcting it -- those who have had the corrective update only report about a 50% success rate. Now if your kid brings home their schoolwork with 50% on it, you're going to make the kid buckle down and study harder. Unfortunately, the 50% failure rate is on the REDO! You'd think after getting it wrong the first time, Jeep would at least get it right the second time around.
I pity the poor people at @JeepCares who are trying to hold the fort against an onslaught of angry members on the Compass site. One owner tried to pursue justice under a Lemon Law, but lost because it's only a radio. However, other vehicle controls go through the touchscreen a/k/a the radio, too, like the nav system that also fades away. I don't know if other features are affected, but lots of things go through that radio/touchscreen.
Jeep's sleepy response to what is apparently a widespread problem shakes my confidence in Stellantis. It's not my problem -- my 2019 Compass is fine. That said, my Wife and I recently discussed replacing my Compass, but I'm a little shy of Jeep right now. As my high school band director used to tell us, "You're only as good as your last job," and Jeep's most recent performance is kinda shabby. This comes from a 10-time Jeep owner, going back to two AMCs. You can read the threads about the radio problem on My Jeep Compass Forum. Moderators on that site consolidated multiple threads into one, but there are hundreds of posts about the fading radios. I'm waiting to see some rejoicing on that site before I buy another Jeep.
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Man, the Jeep compass 2022, looks like a no, no for purchasing. . Unfortunately mistakes are made. Unfortunate for a lot of people, that didn't know. Thanks for the heads up.
Is Stellantis the Jeep owner , that decided to discontinue patriot , replacing with the compass?
As long as all other years, than 2022, then compass still is a budget friendly, its a nice CUV, roomie enough, that looks like an SUV.
I believe it was Fiat (FCA) that owned Jeep and made the decision drop the Patriot. I guess the Renegade was the intended replacement for the Patriot.
Since I don't have a 2022 I don't know if all the radios are affected or if only some models. All I can say is that the radio problem seems to be the leading topic on the Compass forum. Yeah, AFAIK the other years are fine. My 2019 has been trouble-free. My first repair was a brake job at 109,000 miles.
What concerns me most is their inability or unwillingness to solve the problem, and the further failure to make meaningful communication about it. It would be great if every 2022 owner got a letter from Jeep says, "Gosh, we know you've got a problem and here's why we're having trouble fixing it." The problem is one thing, but the problem is aggravated by their lack of transparency. A simple apology would be a good start.
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It was a guy that made the decision to discontinue the patriot, and "replace" as they called it with the compass, even though it was its sister sibling as they called it, at the time. From my understanding, most of the Jeep workers, wanted to keep the patriot's productiion going, and may be even be made now. Many workers and patriot fans, myself included, were not happy with the patriot discontinuing decision, and it was based on one persons decision. I'm not surprised if that was the guy because if I remember right, the article I read, his last name started with an S.
what kind of brake job? I'm glad compass, rode and obvious good looks, well for you.
Moving on, that is unfortunate that Jeep is not communicating with every customer that bought the 2022 model compass, and making sure whether it has this issue or not, then offering to do something! Fix it of possible . It comes down to money, and this is making Jeep appear like bad guys.
Car sales are still at a all time even , even though they've come down some. Right now isn't the time to buy a car, if you can hold off, untill prices come down. Its just the market. After covid vehicle prices increased close to40 %. Currently, may be about 30-35% higher they they would be if United states of north America inflation was managed differently. In the meantime looks like ill drive this for now. I was talking my brother today and he wants to buy an updated or new truck, and he said you want to by when price market for vehicles go down. He said it can take years for it to go down. Its a good point and it could save thousands of dollars, holding off until car market drops back down, which is expected , sometime. Dont know if Ill wait, because I may have to get another paint job, it makes my vehicle look much less attractive.
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