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My 2011 Patriot that we bought new has developed an issue of overloading cylinder #1 with too much fuel, which fouls the spark plug, and makes it obviously start missing. We drove it Tuesday with no issues, but yesterday the wife went to go and it was hard to start. After it did start, it ran rough and the check engine light came on. I scanned the codes and found P0301, cyl.1 misfire. No other codes were present. I pulled the plug and it was fuel fouled and whitish smoke came out of the tailpipe. I cleaned the plug but it still missed, so I checked the coil on plug and it works well. I swapped coils with another cylinder but the problem is still on cyl.1. I suspected a bad injector, so I swapped the injector with another cylinder, but cyl.1 still loads up with fuel and smokes out of the back.
I checked compression and its about 150 psi. When I removed the gauge it was packed with fuel. If I run it with no spark plug, it blows fuel out the cyl. If I unplug the injector on cyl1 it will smooth out for a few seconds with the plug installed then starts missing again due to obvious lack of fuel. As long as their is no fuel, the smokes stops out of the rear. It is not black smoke. I haven't driven it in its present condition so as not to destroy the Cat converter. I cannot understand how only one cylinder gets too much fuel. This car has only 68xxx mi., and other than having a throttle position sensor replaced, there have been no other parts replaced except routine maintenance items, (belts, hoses, oil changes, filters, brakes). I am finding no other examples of the online and hate to take it to a shop if there might be a fix that I am overlooking. I have suspected a possible defective fuel pressure regulator but haven't found where it might be located.
 
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The fuel pressure regulator is inside the fuel tank. You have to take the back seat out to get to it.

Sounds to me like it's a problem with the injector not getting the proper signal from the PCM. Seems like it's always stuck on. One side of injector goes to 12v the other goes to the PCM. To turn the injector on, the PCM pulls the line towards ground. What I would try is running the engine with the electrical connector to #1 injector disconnected and see if the cylinder still loads with fuel. If it doesn't, then I'd disconnect the battery, and check the cable from the injector (pin 1) to the PCM (C2, pin 23) for continuity and short to ground (info below). If the cable checks out, then it may be a bad PCM. Reconnect the cable to the injector and the PCM, then the battery and try to start it. If it runs, then maybe the PCM just needed reset, but if it's still happening I'd suspect a bad PCM.


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Thanks, Sandstone! After following your hints I do think you are spot on. I unhooked the fuel rail and allowed fuel to pump through all of the injectors while cranking the starter. #1 was like a geyser while the others sprayed much less. It seems as if the PCM is telling #1 to be open much too long. It is now at a dealership awaiting specific diagnosis. I told them what I had learned but they will be a complete diagnostic check anyway. Don't expect anything I eliminated to be the problem.
 
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Update! Sandstone definitely had it right. Just got the Patriot back from the dealer service. After doing all of my diagnosis and following the advice of Sandstone it was the PCM! Cost me $864 but I could not have replaced it myself because it must be programmed. At least I knew what to tell service when it was dropped off.
 
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