Let the title say it all ! Lets hear it ! the reviews say cheap price is all it has going for it ! WHY
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Why all the bad wrap on the patriot
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Only the second post you have on here, so you don't know alot about the platform. Therefore, I'll go easy on ya. But, you still have ALOT to learn.
The hood on mine rattles a little, at speed. Nothing major.
Headliner seems a little loose(not bad for a sub-$23,000 4x4), but doesn't rattle. Although, my aftermarket exhaust sometimes rattles like you described your headliner doing. Only when holding the brake pedal at a stop though, and I've never put my hand on the exhaust when the engine's been running. When it happens, however, putting it in neutral eases the problem.
Spare tire is a cheapo donut you shouldn't have to use, and then(by definition) only for maybe a day or two until you can get an actual tire put back on. The AWD system gets messed up by different size tires though, a side effect of all the technology though not altogether unsurprising considering all four wheels kinda have to work together in a certain fashion to keep traction as the system was designed to do, ya know?
Oh, and that suspension you mentioned? CHRYSLER is known for bad suspensions, not just the MK!!!! The MK was designed at a low point in the company's history, and as a result the earliest years have more problems. There's still a few kinks later on, but customers buying 2017 models new, even with the CVT so many love to hate, are much happier for the most part than in 2008-2009....and those early problems are one of the reasons that there was a lifetime bumper-to-bumper warranty available at the time. Plus, anything that goes bad on these suspensions, you can easily go to your local parts store and order the same exact part made by Moog instead of Chrysler. Problem solved. My local dealer even orders Moog suspension parts if a customer asks them to, because they know Chrysler makes crappy suspensions.
Yes, the CVT. Again, implemented at a low point in the company's history, and while they have learned SOMETHING about factory tuning/cooling(tuning most shown in the 2.0L Sport SE models the last couple years), it's still a Chrysler wannabe job. Add an aftermarket trans cooler, swap out the fluid every 50k-60k miles at most using either Valvoline or AMSoil CVT fluid(if you live someplace warmer, AMSoil is probably wiser), and you should be just fine.
So basically, it's not a Hellcat, it's not a Cadillac, it's a Jeep. A very simply-designed Jeep, designed for basic transportation to wherever you might really need to go, from downtown NYC to your favorite backwoods campsite or fishing hole. Any problems you have should be easily fixed, otherwise you have one of the occasional lemons. I'm sure you know about the "Monday" and "Friday" vehicles to come from auto factories. There's been some of those on here. Long story short...it's a machine. Take care of it, it'll take care of you. If you don't wanna take care of it, sell it to somebody who can actually appreciate it, then buy a Subaru and deal with their oil-burning problems.
POS edition? Well, your wife has had it for 8 model years, approaching its 9th. Must be fairly durable overall. If that's all the trouble she's had in 8 years, I don't think she's got a POS.I got yet another shower in my Patriot the last hard rain we had. That's why I give Patriots a bad rap. Oh, and read my signature too.
Roof leaked on 3rd day of ownership and multiple times thereafter. Wheel Speed Sensor FAILED (TWICE) causing ABS system to nearly kill me! Ball Joints FAILED @40k miles. Electronic Control Module FAILED - $750+ with towing and repairs! "Tire & Wheel Package" = 17" wheels with 16" donut spare - WTF?
I once had a lemon -- Jeep XJ. I bought it new and when I realized it was a lemon (6 months), it was gone.
Also had a bad set of tires on Wifey's old Wrangler -- Goodyear RT/Ss. Nobody I love was gonna ride on those.
If her Patriot is so awful, why have you let her drive it for 8 years? Its one thing to slam your finger in the door; its another to leave it there!
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No replacement for displacement.
Its too bad the V8 is on the way out. Soon enough Mad Max will be a reality, and everyone will try to get their mitts on that "last of the V8 Interceptors..."
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Good for you
And, btw, I drive it. The wife is smarter than me - she has a Honda.
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Well Ignatz, good for you. But not all of us can afford a new car payment. Many of those issues occurred in the first 60,000 miles. There were many more issues not listed here. Nothing major in the last couple of years (knocks on wood). But the indoor dome light shower continues regularly. Believe me, if we could afford a new car payment we would. In the mean time I have to keep patching this POS together and keep it running.
And, btw, I drive it. The wife is smarter than me - she has a Honda.
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With all the negative reviews from so called professional reviewers i tell you what, in my area i see a lot and i mean a lot of new(er) Pats on the road.
The people themselves are reviewing this vehicle with their pocket books.
When i had my speedometer re-calibrated for the bigger tires, i got to talking to my Jeep Tech.
He said, we don't get many of the newer Pats in for service.
Finally after years, Chrysler got the Pat right and then they discontinue it.
IMO, for those with old clunky 1st gen Pats, trade up while you can still get them.
An aside, just an unscientific observation, seems most of these Pats i see on the road are driven by women.
Why are Pats a hit with the ladies?
The people themselves are reviewing this vehicle with their pocket books.
When i had my speedometer re-calibrated for the bigger tires, i got to talking to my Jeep Tech.
He said, we don't get many of the newer Pats in for service.
Finally after years, Chrysler got the Pat right and then they discontinue it.
IMO, for those with old clunky 1st gen Pats, trade up while you can still get them.
An aside, just an unscientific observation, seems most of these Pats i see on the road are driven by women.
Why are Pats a hit with the ladies?
Well, that kinda figures. Newer vehicles don't usually break down.
I thought about it, but why trade in a perfectly good running vehicle?
I see a lot of bumper stickers like "Silly boys, Jeeps are for GIRLS!" or "This is not my boyfriend's Jeep!" My Wife's driving a Patriot -- She liked mine.
My cousin and her husband always drive Hondas -- most recently bought a CRV even though it was small for them. They just drive Hondas, nothing else matters. Every company makes mistakes. They once had a Del Sol that wasn't very good to them and practically disintegrated in their driveway at only 120,000 miles. I thought about getting it as a project car because it seemed like it would be fun to drive once fixed up, but at the time, like you, I just didn't have the money to put into it. Ultimately it was towed away. :crying:
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Reef, I think there's documentation someplace about your leak problem being a plugged drain tube. Check the JPATW(Jeep Patriot Around the World) facebook page or use the search bar(the real search bar, not the shoutbox) here for more info. Might help you out alot.
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Everyone covered it
The Jeep patriot is as good as other higher priced vehicles and cost much less. You're getting great value . Let people what they think about it, they're the ones that are ignorant and losing out on the great deal
The Jeep patriot is as good as other higher priced vehicles and cost much less. You're getting great value . Let people what they think about it, they're the ones that are ignorant and losing out on the great deal
I think one of the biggest issues with the Patriot when it comes to "professional" reviewers is that it sort of falls in the middle between the "cross-overs" (many of which have less than 7" of ground clearance and have no business doing even "light" off-roading) that are little more than high-roof station wagons and "true" hardcore off-road vehicles (i.e. Wrangler).
For the reviewers like consumer-reports, etc. that essentially set the Toyota Camry (or Highlander, or RAV4, or Honda Accord, or CRV, you get the picture) as their benchmark and try to see how other vehicles compare the Patriot is "unrefined", "rough", "noisy", and "handles poorly" (I think it handles pretty well for what it is, but again they're comparing it to cars with 6" of ground clearance, of course it doesn't corner as well), but they aren't comparing it to truly "like" vehicles even if they are "officially" in the same class.
On the other hand you have the off-road guys that are comparing it to a Wrangler Rubicon and complaining that it isn't as capable off-road (no s*** it doesn't have the capability of a $40k purpose-built off-roader).
The Patriot falls in a niche somewhere between these two extremes which makes it perfect for many people who need a vehicle with decent road handling, fuel economy, etc. and also need a vehicle that can handle some light off-roading and/or bad snow, but with reviewers often so slanted to one side of the coin or the other the Patriot doesn't get a fair shake.
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My 2016 Patriot is my first Jeep. I am very pleased with it. Actually, I like it more than my wife 2017 Cherokee.
I think you summed it up well and hit the nail on the head.
Pats are not slick bell 'n whistle foreign AWDs, not a race car, not a Wrangler and its less expensive than all of the above.
Yeah, i agree Pats fit in between all those categories, one of the reasons i like them.
Also agree some reviewers are slanted, maybe some even taking payola.
I occasionally catch an episode of Motor Week.
Most of the vehicles they review are born in foreign lands.
They do but not that often review domestic made vehicles.
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well said. Well the patriot may not get a fair shake to most uninformed people, to those informed we drive a nice vehicle for less than what another company would charge . Great deal for sure and everything I desire, basic, simple, yet refined, classy looking, and nice to have the option go off the beaten track . Love the name as well, Patriot.
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