Patriot 2009, when using the indicater left or right it cuts out too soon especially when rurning right on a round about and you have to veer left to go right
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I also have that problem on my 2010. I believe someone else on here mentioned this problem, but I have not been able to find the thread.
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Mine does the same but by the time it already shuts off I am in the curve as it is. The only concern I have is a cop... if he looks early on in the curve, he may think you didn't use your signal and ticket you. I had to "prove" to a cop here that this was the case... early cancellation of the signal. The slightest jerk in the opposite direction of the curve seems to cancel it right out.
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It seems that the cancel is about 10 to 15 degrees off of straight. If I do a quarter turn and back it cancels. However I can turn the wheel about 9/10ths around and it still won't cancel until I'm once again almost back to straight. However if I go past 380 degrees, it will cancel as the steering wheel passes upright again one whole revolution before the road wheels are rolling straight ahead.
For me the canceling is only a problem if I signal into a long turn lane where I straighten the wheel after I'm in the turn land still rolling ahead to the actual turn. Until you mentioned this I never noticed. I had compensated by holding the signal in the lane change position for the lane shift and activating the full turn signal before the actual turn.
I have not experienced any problems with roundabouts. Although they are new in this part of the world and I have no idea what the proper signaling method is for a roundabout. It seems senseless to signal before the roundabout as all traffic has to orbit the same direction. Further more, the signal must not be on until you are ready to leave. When I signal to leave the orbit, it cancels just fine when I'm back on a road.
For me the canceling is only a problem if I signal into a long turn lane where I straighten the wheel after I'm in the turn land still rolling ahead to the actual turn. Until you mentioned this I never noticed. I had compensated by holding the signal in the lane change position for the lane shift and activating the full turn signal before the actual turn.
I have not experienced any problems with roundabouts. Although they are new in this part of the world and I have no idea what the proper signaling method is for a roundabout. It seems senseless to signal before the roundabout as all traffic has to orbit the same direction. Further more, the signal must not be on until you are ready to leave. When I signal to leave the orbit, it cancels just fine when I'm back on a road.
Roundabouts 101. When you approach a roundabout in Australia you typically have 4 exits Left, Straight, Right, Uturn. You have to giveway to cars coming from your right side. So If I am turning right I put the right hand signal as I approach the roundabout, but in order to get around the roundabout to the right I have to steer to the left and go around, at this point the signal switches off, the danger is if the car in the opposing side doesnt see my right indicator will assume I am going straight and enter the roundabout as I am driving into him.
This is a hazard, I believe Jeep needs to fix this design flaw.
This is a hazard, I believe Jeep needs to fix this design flaw.
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It's the same in the UK, fortunately there is a way to get round this.
When approaching the roundabout, and indicating right, use your left hand (while on the steering wheel) with one or more fingers extended so that the indicator cannot cancel as you begin to turn left into the roundabout. Effectively both hands are on the wheel so there is no loss of control
You'll hear the click as the indicator tries to cancel, and then it will continue to indicate, at this point you can then grip the wheel with all your fingers with the left hand.
When approaching the roundabout, and indicating right, use your left hand (while on the steering wheel) with one or more fingers extended so that the indicator cannot cancel as you begin to turn left into the roundabout. Effectively both hands are on the wheel so there is no loss of control
You'll hear the click as the indicator tries to cancel, and then it will continue to indicate, at this point you can then grip the wheel with all your fingers with the left hand.
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I think it is safe to say, Chrysler isn't likely to redesign the steering column. In checking my older cars, they are no different. If you move the cancel location it is going to cause problems with people complaining that it doesn't cancel after a small turn.
Anyone who is really bothered by it could take the column apart and move the cancel nub to a different location on the inside of the wheel.
Anyone who is really bothered by it could take the column apart and move the cancel nub to a different location on the inside of the wheel.
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Roundabouts are becoming more popular here in Colorado (US). Honestly, I'm paying more attention to idiots who don't know what the hell it is than trying to signal my turn. Just get in, and go I say... But, yes you can get a ticket for not signaling, I understand. I regularly signal my turns and haven't been bothered by this phenomenon to date. Of course, not it will bug the **** out of me; THANKS!
There should be a rule on auto forums; if the problem cannot be fixed (without redesign and rebuild), DON'T MENTION IT!!!
J/K of course.
There should be a rule on auto forums; if the problem cannot be fixed (without redesign and rebuild), DON'T MENTION IT!!!
J/K of course.
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The roundabouts that are popping up in MN and WI are small. Only about a 40' diameter hill in the center. Scarcely larger than the intersections they replaced. Since they are so small, I seldom have time to signal before my exit. If a car is waiting to enter on the road I plan to take, I try to signal my exit to give them a heads up so they can go. I see no reason to have the signal flashing to claim I'm going to continue to orbit the roundabout. A signal is there it communicate an unexpected change in direction. So, there is no (good) reason to signal entering the roundabout. ALL traffic must go right (USA) without exception. I just signal my exit from the roundabout.
Basically the roundabout eliminates the dreaded left turn. (USA)
Like you said, everyone is getting used to them so it is kind of like tether ball at this point.
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