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Trail rated badge placement

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#1 ·
Does anyone know or have the measurements for the location of the trail rated badge? I can't seem find it in any crash book or online any place. Any help is appreciated
 
#5 ·
its not that is not allowed... But I would discourage it. The TR badge indicates a specific trim level, and is a bit dishonest. I've seen people put other badges on there, that look pretty cool, like a transformers badge.

But unless you have the FDII package, I wouldn't put the badge on there.
 
#17 ·
but still not brake lock diff and 19:1 crawl ratio. :( other than that it can be done pretty close. I would never think of doing it to my FWD Jeep! lol
 
#18 · (Edited)
I purchased a Trail Rated Badge for my upcoming Patriot Latitude FDII that I intend to mount on the right side front fender. I suppose I will measure the badge placement on the left and hope to get it correct on the right. I have found no measurements online. I did see in a Jeep video that the factory uses a cool armature type device that swivels to the side, fits itself to the fender, presses the badge on in a matter of seconds.
 
#19 ·
So, I couldn't help myself. Since everyone is sharing their opinion.... I agree, I wouldn't false advertise. If you don't have the "trail rated" version, don't put the tag on it. But there is a flip side to this too.

Based on what makes a patriot "trail rated" VS. one that is not, it's a joke. I mean, lets be serious here. Yes, it's cool if you have the ultra low gearing if you're going to be rock crawling or hill climbing. But if you're going to be rock climbing or hill climbing, you wouldn't have purchased a Patriot to begin with. ANY of you bring your trail rated Patriot over to my farm, and I promise you that your FD2 trail rated patriot will not handle the slop any better than my strait drive 4x4. Ice? nothing handles good in ice. Snow? The lower gearing of the FD2 would pose an advantage here, particularly for the inexperienced, but so does a front wheel drive vs. a rear wheel drive.

It would be one thing if a trail rated patriot came with a locker capability or something useful. I'm not knocking the CVT, as i'm sure it's high speed/ low drag. But to say that and some bolt on things like an oil cooler and skid plates makes it trail worthy, come on.
 
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#21 ·
If you took a carpenters square, and with a little bit of savvy, you should be able to figure dead center on one side and apply that to the other. Just pull from the same point on both side on level ground. (like a paved driveway for instance) Go up with your square from the pull point, and you have the height.
 
#23 ·
Ok,…… know may create a few waves, I'm from the uk where Pats are rear. Trail badges have little if any meaning yet…… I hate to say…… actually quite like the idea of putting the badges on my patriot CRD Limited

(I'm running as I type this lol)
 
#24 · (Edited)
Trail rated used to mean something but it hasn't in a few years. Chrysler has said that rather than the badge indicating a certain level of ability they will be applied according to their marketing desires, not off-road testing.

Adding the badge alone is not the same as claiming that an MK has the FDII package. The lack of that CVT thing alone would show that. I can see a clear difference in the "trail rated" badge and claiming a different option package. It is not like the OP is trying to sell the Jeep as something it is not. The difference between a FD1 & FDII is hardly the difference between a Tempest and a GTO. I am fairly confident that no one outside of the smallish MK world would know the differences, anyway. Ask Burnsie (above.) Should the dealer hold onto your badge and only install it after you have proven that have done some off-roading worthy of the badge?

Such badging arguments only seem to matter to what used to be called bench racers. That is the title for those who sit on a bench talking about what their vehicle has or doesn't have and what maybe it could do... if they ever would do it. "By garsh I have FDII and thank goodness for the trail rated badge because the lot behind the store was gravel not paved..." Alas, my stretched wheelbase CJ7 with a locked Dana 60 front/locked 14 bolt rear and comp trimmed body on 38.5" tires lacked a trail rated badge...maybe it should have remained in the mall parking lot if you need badges to indicate that a Jeep can go on a trail.
 
#29 ·
Trail rated used to mean something but it hasn't in a few years. Chrysler has said that rather than the badge indicating a certain level of ability they will be applied according to their marketing desires, not off-road testing.
The only thing funny are the people that think a trail rated patriot is really trail rated.
http://www.jeep.com/en/jeep-capabilities/trail-rated/

All those videos under the Patriot subsection clearly show they have never been tested off road and they have simply stuck a badge to the side. :icon_rolleyes:
 
#28 ·
The only thing funny are the people that think a trail rated patriot is really trail rated. Refer to my previous post, as well as incommando's.
 
#31 ·
Adding the badge alone is not the same as claiming that an MK has the FDII package. The lack of that CVT thing alone would show that. I can see a clear difference in the "trail rated" badge and claiming a different option package. It is not like the OP is trying to sell the Jeep as something it is not. The difference between a FD1 & FDII is hardly the difference between a Tempest and a GTO. I am fairly confident that no one outside of the smallish MK world would know the differences, anyway. Ask Burnsie (above.) Should the dealer hold onto your badge and only install it after you have proven that have done some off-roading worthy of the badge

Now that's a bloody good idea! Dealers could only issue a badge depending on your off-road ability