[The4WDPatriot]

Maybe I'm the outlier of the situation but I've never had many torque issues with my patriot with climbing relatively steep inlines off road.

 

[The4WDPatriot]

If you have a few Mph head start it's not too bad. It's if you're in a rocky area and there are rocks that you have to go over(practically a vertical climb) that you will get moo syndrome. Usually you can back up a bit and bump it but if you are stuck in a hole or with rocks in front and behind you can run into trouble. Or in my most recent case your tires dig straight down and to go anywhere you have to climb 12" up and then forward.

Or if you're in sand... Then it's real bad... Lol

Hmmm, i was in a rocky area, (two big rocks (raised up about 7") with about 8" between them) while going up hill and I made my way over the first rock and then gave it a little gas and heard my fronts spinning and then the traction control light came on flashing and the rears kicked in and I climbed right over them. Maybe it's the loose dirt that was on top of the rocks that allowed the wheel spin and kept me going. There was one other time where I climbed this pretty steep slippery grass hill but was going about 5 mph before I got to up so I went up fairly easy.

I've driven on the sand but I noticed that although it was loose, with esp full off and 4x4 locked in gear 1, there was no chance of having enough torque to get a spinning start.


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