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I stopped reading after "Costs when your Warranty runs out", and since I'm not towing anything, not worried.

Lots of info tho! This man needs to pay someone who is decent in Adobe Dreamweaver. That web layout looks about 12 years old...
 
I dunno, I read through a bit of it... guy looks and sounds like an old-school mechanic who's just looking for reasons to rail against newer technologies he doesn't understand.

I love how many times he calls the CVT "new" - snowmobiles have been using them for decades. My father's 1953-vintage Shopsmith uses a CVT drive as the center of a multi-use power tool system. It's hardly a "new" idea.
 
Some of us have a lifetime warranty on our CVT's (as long as Jeep is around anyway).

In case he wasn't paying attention, it costs a boat load of money to get a traditional automatic trans fixed.
 
I traded in my Ford Taurus because it was on the verge of a $3,000 trans repair. It's someone else's problem now. Trans are always one of the most expensive repairs, no matter what car you drive.
 
I stopped reading after the first sentence when he calls it a "Constant Velocity Transmission". Try CONTINUOUSLY VARIABLE TRANSMISSION.
Soundy has a good point - they've been used in snowmobiles, ATV's, and machine tools for a long time. The old saying is true - we mock what we do not understand.
 
Some of us have a lifetime warranty on our CVT's (as long as Jeep is around anyway).

In case he wasn't paying attention, it costs a boat load of money to get a traditional automatic trans fixed.
It's up to about $900 to $1200 on "traditional" Jeep Transmissions the Mopar Torqueflite or GM Turbo400.
 
"Did you see the news item on CTV National News re the lady in Toronto with a warranty expired Mini?
-Whole thing based on a lady in toronto?

like most Nissans these days equipped with huge square trailer hitches and I think
-what does he mean by huge? 2"?

First, who on earth would buy a neatly agile little go-kart like the MINI and then weight it down with a CVT?
And secondly, the towing restriction is even worse. MINI says 1000 pounds and but I doubt that there is much out
there of the follow - along - kind that weighs that little.
--Who buys a mini to tow?

My transmission supplier was at a seminar in the USA recently and was told that CVTs CANNOT be repaired,
they have to be replaced with a new unit.
--did he stay at a red roof inn?


In the whole rant he complains of costs of parts and such
no complaint of price of cars,
Many cars he mentioned are luxury cars,
cheapest car being the mini a BMW!!!!!
which starts at low $20's?
didnt here him complain of the $20k-$30k- over $50k price of the cars,
no he complains of the $1k key fob on that +$50k car
 
It's hard to take him seriously since his writing and logic are so flawed. Maybe his assertions about CVTs are true, but he presents no evidence or logic supporting his opinion. As for the woman with the MINI- who knows, but it's not a Jeep Patriot and I doubt it would cost $10k for the Patriot CVT even if it did not have a lifetime warranty. As for towing--- you shouldn't town with ANY vehicle, regardless of transmission, unless it is a vehicle made for towing. A lot of standard and conventional automatic transmissions get ruined by towing with an undersized vehicle. That's not a CVT specific problem.
 
i think the high costs associated with fixing a CVT stem from the fact that CVT's are not usually rebuilt...they are just replaced.

many people with traditional planar gear auto transmissions get them fixed by rebuilding them.

the fact that the CVT can't be repaired and must be completely replaced might end up being the one negative of the CVT. this cost should be offset though as more and more vehicles start using the CVT...
 
My CVT was just replaced at 17,000 miles because it was making a weird grinding/rattling sound when under load.

I would assume that this was simple a fluke since I have only come across one other person, with the same problem I had.

It still ran just fine when I took it in, just made that weird noise.
 
As with anything new, costs are high. In time with more and more on the road, someone will start repairing them. A complete CVT replacement does not make sense for a minor part failing. In 5 years they will be as cheap as a "normal" automatic or they will be gone because who would buy them in a vehicle? If a vehicle only came with a manual or CVT, it's sales would suffer and then the dealers would complain. Repair prices will drop.
 
CVTs are simpler than full blown traditional automatic transmissions. There's far less to go wrong. I worry about CVT failure about as much as I worry about the engine venting a piston out through the cylinder head. That is, not at all.
 
I stopped reading after the first sentence when he calls it a "Constant Velocity Transmission". Try CONTINUOUSLY VARIABLE TRANSMISSION.
Soundy has a good point - they've been used in snowmobiles, ATV's, and machine tools for a long time. The old saying is true - we mock what we do not understand.
Haha, I noticed that too, thought they were talking about constant speed props for a second!
 
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