Well it's about time.....I'm going to get this at my next oil change....

 

This is the reason I belong to this forum. Thanks for the great info. I've already printed it off, and will be scheduling it for the next oil change.

 

glad to see there is a FIX out with those plauged with this problem. being paranoid, i checked mine today, and it works as described in the manual. espoff displays in the cluster with a chime. about a 6 second push on the esp off button.

 

That is awesome that they figured it out. Big thumbs up to the folks that found and posted the TSB too! Now to call my dealer and get an appointment.

 

They did not have much of a choice but to fix it. The manual is crystal clear how the system should work.

 

I have a 2008 2 x 4 2.0Ltr auto stick, Do I need this done also

 

wburmil, no this is only for 4x4 models. 4x2 models don't have the full esp off option.

 

YAY!!
Thanks WestSideWilly & everyone. I too will schedule this for my first (& free!) oil change, as well as an "owed" detail job.
I have had my Pat for 3 months now, and absolutely love it.

 

You the MAN Westsidewilly! Yippy Skippy.

 

I took an appointment on Thursday. I will print it out and show it to my dealer.

Thank you!

 

Be sure your dealer has upgraded his toolscan to V. 9.03 as mentioned on TSB. My dealer has to upgrade his equipment before being able to flash my Patriot for ESP full function.

 

I had mine Flashed on Friday...works like a charm...just in time for the snow!!!!

 

I just did mine today at work. It is an easy procedure to do. It now works as stated in the owner's manual.

 

I just took the flash instructions to my service department (I work at the dealership) and they flashed the system. I works!!! The funny part is that I had to tell them about it as they didn't know about this situation. Learn new things every day I guess?

 

I am taking it in tomorrow. Thank you for the post. I was thinking that it wasnt working properly. Already made my time here worth while.

 

Got the flash and now all is as the manual says it should be....here is hoping that it does not screw something else up. Oddly they say they have not had any complaints on this problem there. I know I have asked twice myself before about it. wondering if nobody else around my area noticed the problem. im sure im not the only one that had the issue in the city , there a growing number of patriots now.

 

I'd be willing to bet few owners will ever discover there is a problem. Just us car nuts that read the manual and insist that the car works exactly as it is supposed to. Instead they will find themselves in deep snow or loose sand and just get mad. Then they will shoot off their mouths about what a lousy car the Jeep Patriot is.
:doh:

 

I'm guessing the people that buy Jeep Patriots and use the ESP button are rare, and the people that want to hold down the ESP button for 10 seconds to disable it are rarer still.
How many Patriot owners in the wild even drive gravel, much less off road?

 

I disable it fully at least twice a month to go offroad, and drive rough ungraded gravel mountain roads every weekend in the summer. :banana:

 

I take mine off road all the time here in Idaho. I like the ESP Full Off feature. When you are going up a steep hill, and the wheels start to lose traction, ESP kicks in and cuts power to those wheels, which makes it almost impossible to get up the hill.

 

YOU DON'T NEED FULL OFF MODE TO PREVENT ENGINE TORQUE REDUCTION!!!!

Read the owners manual as it clearly states...

PARTIAL ESP
This mode is entered by momentarily depressing the “ESP Control Switch”. When in “Partial Off” mode, the TCS portion of ESP, except for the “limited slip” feature described in the TCS section, has been disabled and the “ESP/TCS Indicator Light” will be illuminated. All other stability features of ESP function normally, with the exception of engine power reduction. This mode is intended to be used if the vehicle is in deep snow, sand or gravel conditions and more wheel spin than ESP would normally allow is required to gain traction.

In the Partial ESP mode, the engine torque reduction and stability features are desensitized. Therefore, the enhanced vehicle stability offered by ESP is unavailable.

NOTE: To improve the vehicle’s traction when driving with snow chains, or starting off in deep snow, sand or gravel, it may be desirable to switch to the “Partial Off” mode by pressing the ESP switch. Once the situation requiring ESP to be switched to the “Partial Off” mode is overcome, turn ESP back on by momentarily depressing the “ESP Control Switch”. This may be done while the vehicle is in motion.

And this applies and can be useful for 2WD Patriots as well.

ESP full off disables the stability control portion that correlates steering wheel angle to yaw rate and lateral acceleration. Basically, if you want to slide or drift the car, use full off. Otherwise, partial is all most people need for on and off-road driving.

 

Yep, spinning wheels are good on loose dirt and in snow if you have 4x4. Don't spin your tires in snow if you have a 4x2.

 

which model years does this affect? 2007/2008? FDII

 

The TSB, #05-004-08, states that it affects all 4X4 MKs (Patriot and Compass) equipped with ESP, built before June 20th, 2008.

 

Fixed.

I went to my dealer today and I showed to him the PDF that I printed from this forum.

He flashed my Patriot without any issues.

Now it works ! I can hear a chime and "ESP FULLOFF" is displayed in the odometer.

Thank you very much !

 

My Dealership went ahead and did it without me having to try and prove it to them. I told them the issue, and they searched it out and found the TSB. Now if they would stop making excuses why they aren't fixing the knock in my front end :| Brought it in twice for it, both times nothing fixed. The Gas Evap Canister is toast on it, so they ordered it, will be bringing my knock problem to the attention of the service manager.

 

Just checked mine out and alas it will need to be repaired. Since deep snow is hopefully coming, this will be a needed fix.

....goes back into the shop on Tuesday. (knowing this dealership, I think I'll print out the TSB and put it on the dash for them.)

 

Apparently, this FIX is still not available in Europe. My dealer said that they can not download the update for my VIN and said that since the fix was announced on 30/10, it is not still updated with all Euro VINs. Anybody from Europe did this fix?????