A good tire shop will let you "test fit" some sizes possibly. Usually you can fit a tire that is ~.8" larger without any issues.

My Jeep Liberty CRD came with 225/75/16s (~29.2") and I just put on 235/75/16s (29.82") with no problem. A 245/70/16 would fall in the middle (~29.6") and works fine on the CRD...might be too wide on Patriot?

 

Only tires I've seen so far are 215/70/16 which is roughly 27.9" x 8.5" on some rubicon wheels seen here...

I know this isn't the size you wanted but it gives you some sort of idea....

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AHaaa!!! So, 16 in Rubicon wheels will fit on the Pat. Outstanding!! That looks good indeed.

 

I just ordered some 245/70/16's to put on my Rubicon wheels....Ill keep you all informed...

 

It appears to me the biggest size is 235/70's. Pics to follow....

 

What about a 235/65/17 @ 29.1"

 

I just wanted to post an update here guys. I ordered some 245/70's and went with my Rubicon wheels to the local shop. They did fit, however, with just me inside, there was some rubbing. I took the 245/70's off and put on some 235/70's. They look and fit great. I had 4 adults altogether in the vehicle later that day and experienced NO rubbing at all. In my opinion, the biggest tires that can be put on a Patriot with the FD1 and no lift is the 235/70's. All I need to do now is snap some pics...they are coming.

 

What are the specs on the Rubi wheels??

 

Im not sure, but these are the rubi wheels from 03-06, and not the current Rubicon wheels found on the new body wranglers (JK?)

 

16x8" with 5"bs I believe on the 02-06 Rubicon wheels. The problem with wider wheels and less backspacing is the tire/wheel gets pushed out. This creates a larger arch the tire/wheel follows when turning.

 

Summit Racing actually carries an American Racing wheel that is 16x7 with a 5.5" Backspace and is polished aluminum. It's called the "Split" and it's a "split 5-spoke" design. It's resembles the stock 17" wheels without a center... and they're only $125 each!!

 

Tires

Depending on which Tires you chose, it looks like the overall diameter is 29.1" or so for 235/70R16

This leads me to beleive that for those of us with 17" wheels, we should be safe with: 235/65r17 which is also 29.1" For an aggressive tire the options look kinda limited, but I may think about the Yokohama Geolander A/T-S for about $105. US at Tire Rack as my replacement tire. Pirellis Scorpions are about $150 each at that size!

Stock Diameter is 28" so the speedo error will be about 4% if I did the math right. Possible to have the dealer recalibrate?

 

Depending on which Tires you chose, it looks like the overall diameter is 29.1" or so for 235/70R16

This leads me to beleive that for those of us with 17" wheels, we should be safe with: 235/65r17 which is also 29.1" For an aggressive tire the options look kinda limited, but I may think about the Yokohama Geolander A/T-S for about $105. US at Tire Rack as my replacement tire. Pirellis Scorpions are about $150 each at that size!

Stock Diameter is 28" so the speedo error will be about 4% if I did the math right. Possible to have the dealer recalibrate?

Your math is about right for the difference in the tire circumference (3.9285714285714346% to be exact ) but the options to recalibrate from the dealer are limited to a small selection of tires that are listed in Starscan.

My Commander is running tires that are about an inch bigger in diameter than stock, I have ran my Jeep through several of the "Your Speed Is" signs that we have around town and found that even at 45mph the speedometer seems to be still accurate (if accurate on the signs then its going to be the same for police radar guns and photo radar setups).

 

Did a Little research the other day...

215/70R16

BFG KO $132.00 TireRack
Bridgestone Dueler A/T D693 $99.00 TireRack
General Grabber AT2 $78.00 TireRack
Yokohama Geolander AT/S $83.00 TireRack
Toyo Open Country A/T $111.85 Tire Package

225/70R16

BFG KO $126.00 TireRack
Bridgestone Dueler A/T D693 $95.00 TireRack
Pirelli Scorpion ATR $109.00 TireRack
Yoko Geolander AT/S $85.00 TireRack
ProComp A/T $102.36 Tire Package
Toyo Open Country A/T $115.20 Tire Package

235/70R16

BFG KO $142.00 TireRack
BFG KM $164.00 TireRack
Goodyear Silent Armor $125.00 TireRack
Bridgestone Dueler A/T D693 $106.00 TireRack
Bridgestone Dueler A/T Revo $130.00 TireRack
Dunlop Radial Rover RVXT $96.00 TireRack
Firestone Destination A/T $94.00 TireRack
General Grabber AT2 $86.00 TireRack
Kumho Road Venture AT KL-78 $83.00 TireRack
Michelin LTX A/T 2 $148.00 TireRack
Pirelli Scorpion ATR $109.00 TireRack
Yokohama Geolander AT/S $88.00 TireRack
Goodyear Wrangler SR-A $173.35 Tire Package
Toyo Open Country A/T $107.84 Tire Package

225/60R17

Yokohama Geolander AT/S $111.00 TireRack

235/60R17

Toyo Open Country A/T $108.60 Tires-Easy

 

rolla guy 72, thanks for the breakdown.

 

Too Big...

Some will not be happy until they get something like this.....

Sheesh.....

 

Hilarious.

 

Just curious.
So the biggest size tire on a non-lifted Pat FD1 would be a 235/70/17 ???
Any experiences out there good or bad with going to a bigger tire.
Thanks!
Brent

 

I have not physically tried it yet, but hypothetically speaking, that size you speak of equates to a 30 inch tall tire with a max width of 9.3 inches.

If you compare that with an original 215/65/17 at 28" X 8.5" it would appear that you should not rub against the spring seat or strut. I may not purchase new rims and tires for a couple of months so I don't have any practical feedback at this time. However, if you look at page 1 of this thread, "jimmysjeepn" stated that he has 235/70s and no rubbing with 4 adults in the Patriot FDI.

 

Question: you put 2006 Rubicon wheels on there right? As the 2007 Rubicon wheels are a 5" bolt pattern and the 2006 Rubicon and earlier is 4.5" like our Patriots?
Forgive me if my research is faulty, but I think that's what I've been able to determine. I'm thinking of keeping my 16's on my Patriot and putting on 225/75's on there for a 1" lift. (overall, 2" diameter increase along with a 20mm increase in width)

 

I decided to keep my stock rims and I'm putting these 225/70-16 All Terrain T/A KO's tomorrow. It's going to run about $750 and will add 1" to the overall diameter and nearly an inch wider. I'll put different rims and tires on it when it can be lifted a couple of inches.

 

Hey hey, I put them on yesterday, and I'll snap some pics later today. They look SWEET! and they fit perfectly. It looks lifted higher, and it's around 8.6" clearance now. The noise isn't too bad, not as bad as I thought, and actually, the loudest they get is around 40mph, and on the freeway you don't hear them at all. I'm very happy, and now my jeep is more jeep like. Pics to follow.

 

Can't wait to see your pics, as I also have a 4X4 25E. :banana:

 

Here they are. Difficult to shoot in the shadows but I did my best. Too lazy to pull it out in the sun!

 

Here they are. Difficult to shoot in the shadows but I did my best. Too lazy to pull it out in the sun!

so what's the absolute BIGGEST tire I can put on my jeep with the standard 16'' rims?

 

Those 225s look grrrreat! Now I know... and knowing is half the battle! :smiley_thumbs_up:

 

BTW Sandtrucker, on a previous post you mentioned that your Pat got around better than your pickup. What kind of pickup,engine,tranny, tires and wheels?

 

I have a 07 Nissan Frontier King Cab and it's not being driven since I got the Jeep! It's a nice truck, but it's stiff and rides pretty rough, and is definitely not an off road machine, maybe simple dirt roads, but nothing that would lift one of the rear drive tires off the road or in loose stuff. That happens and you are done! So, I bought the truck cash, and I'm going to sell it real soon and put the money back into my savings. I love my Jeep! Just had to say that! I really do. Never thought I would like a 5 speed instead of auto, I grew up with manual transmissions in my cars, but it had been nearly 20 years since I had one. Now, I love shifting the Patriot. I can shift it sport style giving it lots of fuel, or take it easy on the rpms and just cruise shift it, the Jeep likes it either way huh. I have a '03 Nissan Altima with an auto if I ever want a day off from the Jeep, but so far, my Pat is my choice everyday.:banana:

 

They look good

 

Do those tires rub at all when you turn. I am thinking of putting 253's on mine. Hopefully the lift will work out so that they don't rub.

 

No, they're perfect. Both turning and out in the rough stuff with a friend or two inside. I've already tested it, it's good. If you look at the bottom of the strut where the spring stops, you'll see that there is not a lot of room there, and with these I have an inch or less there I think? I'll have to check it out again, but figuring out the maximum size, that was a concern, so I'm not sure how much wider you could go. I basically went up two sizes. Here is a cool tire size calculator which shows you visually how your new size looks to your old one. I'm happy with the size I went to. Also, you have to know that acceleration and power is affected also. Going to a bigger size affects acceleration and you'll notice it. I think it's 4% with my size I went up to, and also with the new size, when the speedo says I'm going 60mph, I'm actually going 62.4mph a 4% error. Also, if you try to figure your mpg, you will think your mpg has gone down after the increase in tire size, but again, the 4% error has to be figured into your mileage, so if the speedo says I've traveled 280 miles, you need to in my case, multiply that by .04 or 4% to get true miles traveled, which would be 291.2 miles, then divide that by your gallons used. Tire calculator: http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

 

235 not 253, but if they fit, I want to put some 245/75/16.