well you put whatever you put in into mixed coolant already in the system so you won't have straight coolant so don't worry about that.

My old eyes have trouble with a block of text so I'll attempt to answer you but forgive me if I miss something you think important.

Our coolant is the HOAT stuff which is orange and I don't think it wants to be mixed. The flush your label refers to is a complete exchange of antifreeze, not a top up.

Read your receipt from the parts counter...if it doesn't say anything about HOAT on it and the empty jug also doesn't say anything it is now time...not next week, not after Christmas when you have more time, now...it is time to take receipt, jug and vehicle to the Jeep dealer and speak with the Service Manager.

You do not want a Service Writer, you want the manager. Be polite but firm and tell him without going nuts exactly what happened...you explained to the Parts counter person what you needed, assumed they gave you the right stuff, find out now it is not and you want a flush and refill of the proper antifreeze mixture as what you have now is cross contaminated.

It may mix, it may not...I don't know but neither do they and you have a warrantied vehicle with the wrong antifreeze in it due to an employee of theirs leading you wrong.

Sooner than later and remember, use honey, not whatever else flies are attracted to. Be all sweetness and light. But firm.

Sweet yet firm, give them no reason to blow you off, ignore you.

Give them every reason to make it right for you.

 

As for the 50/50 mix
Antifreeze either comes as pure antifreeze which needs to be mixed with watEr, or as a pre mix already 50/50.
Read the label it should say if its pre mixed,
If not, it does not have to be 50/50 exact.
You can either take a cup or any container and pour 1 or 2 cups at a time of each, like 2 cups antifreeze then 2 cups water,
Or you can estimate and time your pour, like 5 seconds antifreeze 5 seconds water,
It can 60/40 and be fine, and since your topping off whatever your off in the mix will be minimal since its mixing with the existing antifreeze.
After you top it off,
Check the level every so often, if your losing fluid, you will want to find out why.

 

(the anti-freeze/coolant was REALLY LOW, it's past the second line which I assume isn't good. So I went to my local dodge dealer (who did my last oil change at the beginning of October) and asked if they sell the anti-freeze/coolant for my jeep so I could top it up. They sold me 5 year, 200,000 km anti-freeze in a liter container

For the first part, was the Jeep hot (running for a while and at full temperature) or was it cold? The lines on the antifreeze reservoir denote a full hot (top line) and full cold (bottom line). Water expands quite a bit as it's heated. In other words, you may not need to add anything if the jeep was sitting over night.

As for what you bought at the dealer, all of their vehicles take the same stuff. Mopar Antifreeze, so no worries on whether it's the right stuff or not. It is.

 

As for what you bought at the dealer, all of their vehicles take the same stuff. Mopar Antifreeze, so no worries on whether it's the right stuff or not. It is.

I thought the HOAT orange stuff was relatively new with the Patriot one of the first vehicles in the line up to use it?

All their vehicles? Like Ram, Dodge, etc as well as Jeep?
I'm not being argumentative, looking for info, honest.

Didn't the OP say something about purple? Or another colour than orange, I'm sure....Ah, pink!

All I know is regular antifreeze was mixed into my wife's old Lumina sedan years ago and it took many, many flushes over a couple of years to finally get the globs of whatever out. The GM anti freeze and the regular other stuff sure did not like each other at all.

 

I think the OP needs to let us know what colour the antifreeze that she poured in was?

 

You hit it right on the head. When ever adding coolant to any of the newer cars. You need to be absolutely certain that the correct coolant is added.

Most manufactures are using long life coolants. Some call is HOAT, GM also calls it DexCool. Regardless of what it's called, it's either usually red or orange in color. Sometimes it will be yellow.

These long life coolants CAN NOT be mixed with the traditional green glycol based coolants. Mixing of the 2 causes a chemical reaction which creates a brown like sludge to be formed and will clog up heater cores as well as radiators. ( I speak from my own experience on one of my own vehicles).

Like others have mentioned, more than likely you will be ok as far as what you added. Even if you added to much, the level will more or less auto correct itself and push any extra coolant out of the reservoir tank (Via the breather) once the system is warmed up and pressurized.

 

Thanks for the replies, I thought I'd clear some stuff from my original post:

1. I didn't put the stuff in yet; after reading some horror stories on the internet about pouring the wrong stuff in and it blowing up in the owner's faces I decided to confer with people I hoped would have a bit more knowledge than me.

2. The colour in the tank is a pinkish orange (I don't know if it's a canadian thing, but I tipped some of the liter bottle into a cup to try to see if they match and they do)

3. There is no mention of HOAT anywhere, not on the package, not on the reciept, no where; so I was suspicious and still haven't poured it in.


5. I've decided to be certain that ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEMS happen, I'm taking it in to another dodge dealer in my city for a maintance check/oil change. Why can't topping up anti-freeze be simple (not have didn't formulas for different makes, etc.)? My dad never had a problem maintaining his classic cars at home.

Thanks again, I'm glad I didn't take the chance, I should be able to return the wrong coolant, right? or just say bye bye to the $22?

Ps. Since I still have some in the reserve I can hope it gets me to my appointment next week. *Edit: re-reading this sounds stupid to me, I'll be hitting bridge city's express lane tomorrow*

 

Thanks for the replies, I thought I'd clear some stuff from my original post:

1. I didn't put the stuff in yet; after reading some horror stories on the internet about pouring the wrong stuff in and it blowing up in the owner's faces I decided to confer with people I hoped would have a bit more knowledge than me.

2. The colour in the tank is a pinkish orange (I don't know if it's a canadian thing, but I tipped some of the liter bottle into a cup to try to see if they match and they do)

3. There is no mention of HOAT anywhere, not on the package, not on the reciept, no where; so I was suspicious and still haven't poured it in.


5. I've decided to be certain that ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEMS happen, I'm taking it in to another dodge dealer in my city for a maintance check/oil change. Why can't topping up anti-freeze be simple (not have didn't formulas for different makes, etc.)? My dad never had a problem maintaining his classic cars at home.

Thanks again, I'm glad I didn't take the chance, I should be able to return the wrong coolant, right? or just say bye bye to the $22?

Ps. Since I still have some in the reserve I can hope it gets me to my appointment next week.

Your reserve coolant tank can be empty and you still have coolant in the rad and block. So that isn't an issue.
If they both (your coolant in the vehicle and in the purchased container) are the same colour, chances are good it is the same stuff. Things tend to be colour coded in the "new" automotive world. Does the litre bottle you purchased have G O-5 on it? That is good to go if so.

A little heavy reading from this site:
http://www.recycool.net/index.php?o...p?option=com_content&id=14:antifreeze-facts&catid=10:antifreeze-facts&Itemid=10

The third type of antifreeze on the market today is the hybrid OAT, known as HOAT (or G O-5). One of the primary problems with OAT formulations is that they are not compatible with conventional antifreezes. The chemicals used in OAT antifreeze react to some extent with some of the inorganic salts and other components in conventional antifreeze. The result of this interaction is the generation of cloudiness and precipitates. HOAT formulations are called hybrid because the additive package contains ingredients from both OAT and conventional formulas and is compatible with both.
Hybrid OAT antifreezes provide both fast acting and extended life corrosion protection, eliminate the problem of anti- freeze compatibility, and therefore are compatible with all types and colors of antifreeze.

Unfortunately, many automotive professionals consider all extended life antifreeze to be “Dexcool” and associate all the problems related to “Dexcool” with both OAT and HOAT formulas. The result of this misconception is often replacing the extended life coolant with conventional green. Industry experts say that this can be done safely if all of the green antifreeze is removed from the system. However, auto manufacturers recommend specific formulations and replacing the factory fill coolant with a different type that doesn’t meet the manufacturer’s specifications could cause liability issues down the road. A much safer solution is to replace OAT systems with HOAT coolant which meets OAT specifications.

So...unless I'm reading this entirely wrong, the HOAT / G O-5 stuff in our Patriots is cross compatible with any/all antifreeze out there.

Colour me surprised!

 

I use G-05 to top off my Patriot. It's usually available at Napa or other auto parts stores.

 

Eye ball the coolant level you have and which line you want to be at. If the motor has been running for awhile you want the top line, if it has sat over night you want the bottom line, if it's neither hot nor cold you're aiming for somewhere in between. Okay good now you now about where you want the fluid. Toss in some of that coolant you were sold until it's about half way between the level it was at and the level you're aiming for. Then fill the rest of the way to the correct full mark with distilled water. You'll have about a 50/50 mix. It is not rock science. As far as you are concerned, you want to aim for a 50/50 mix, but if you think you got more water in than antifreeze, add a bit more antifreeze. If you go slightly over your full line, no big deal either. If you go WAY over your full line, the car will push some out when it's hot, so in that case you can expect to see some coolant on the ground and maybe smell it.



BTW; You have a 2011.... My first thought was that it should not be consuming coolant and thought that you should take it to a dealer to have them give it a once over, top it off under warranty and have the "issue" documented.

 

You have a 2011.... My first thought was that it should not be consuming coolant and thought that you should take it to a dealer to have them give it a once over, top it off under warranty and have the "issue" documented.

That was my first thought too.. If the coolant is really low there could be a leak somewhere. Although, I have known car companies to sell vehicles with low fluid levels. My wife's hyundai had low coolant when she bought it. The first oil change the filed up the fluids..