Partially answering my own question, the parts manual shows the 6spd on 4wd vehicles according to the lettering descriptions. Moparpartsamerica.com lists the 6spd for under $1500.00. Is the Patriot available with a 6spd?

 

Haven't seen it for the Pat though I know the manual Wrangler has one, but that's a different engine too.


Rich

 

Searching the net for my answer, I found this link: http://www.daimlerchrysler.co.za/DCNewsRooms/General/Jeep_Patriot_Specs.pdf
Looks like the 6 speed comes on 2.0l Diesels.
This also shows gear ratios. But this all could be different in the US. A six speed diesel would be nice.

 

Diesel Patriot CRD for North America

The 6 speed only comes with the CRD model (Diesel, outside of USA).
I would love to have a CRD. It can get up to 50mpg highway. Its the only way I'd get rid of my current Patriot!

BNoble & Hunter,

If Chrysler/Jeep wishes to wring out all the sales they can with the Patriot and establish it as a solid and enduring player in the small SUV/Utility vehicle category here in the US & Canada, then they'll introduce the CRD-powered model with 6-speed manual gearbox ASAP - and hopefullly in time for the 2009 model year.

With the CRD Patriot already being sold abroad, the heavy lifting's done and paid for .. so I imagine the only obstacles possibly standing in the way of selling the vehicle here are management's stamp of approval, vehicle certification and negotiating a deal with Volkswagen AG to supply their 2.0 Litre 'Dieselmotoren' in sufficient quanities to meet market demand; and with the price of oil escalating on an almost daily basis, an oil-burning Patriot with 40+ MPG performance can't come to this market too soon.


Irish Waif ​

 

Thanks for the input Tazman900. Seems like I am usually talking to myself. My online journal.

 

The 6 speed only comes with the CRD model (Diesel, outside of USA).

I would love to have a CRD. It can get up to 50mpg highway. Its the only way I'd get rid of my current Patriot!

 

It can get up to 50mpg highway.

Hunter, is the 50 mpg a typo or is that true?

 

No, its not a typo. This review says that it gets a combined (city/hwy) of 42.5:

http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/road_tests/?id=286

 

No, its not a typo. This review says that it gets a combined (city/hwy) of 42.5:
http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/road_tests/?id=286

Gentlemen,

Without a doubt the CRD Patriot is capable of delivering outstanding fuel efficiency and performance.

Please keep in mind however when reviewing fuel economy numbers for comparative purposes that the gallon unit of measure in the UK and Canada is Imperial Gallons and not U.S. Gallons; and as one Imperial Gallon equals approximately 1.2 U.S. Gallons, vehicle fuel usage reports based on Imperial Gallons will show more miles per gallon than the identical vehicle whose numbers are based on U.S. Gallons.


Irish Waif ​

 

Mines a diesel and I love it. Was originally going to purchase a petrol limited, but went a sport diesel instead. Easily the best choice of engine combo in the Patriot line-up. I can't qoute mpg but can say that 5.5 litres per 100 kilometers is superb for a car of its size and mass. The six speed helps get a good fuel economy figure in that regard.

Cheers,

Tim.

 

You can have your cake and eat it, too!

Mines a diesel and I love it. Was originally going to purchase a petrol limited, but went a sport diesel instead. Easily the best choice of engine combo in the Patriot line-up. I can't qoute mpg but can say that 5.5 litres per 100 kilometers is superb for a car of its size and mass. The six speed helps get a good fuel economy figure in that regard.

Tim et al.,

WOW, that's fuel economy to die for ...

5.5 Litres per 100 Kilometers equals (=) 42.8 Miles per U.S. Gallon and 51.4 Miles per Imperial Gallon. No matter which side of the Atlantic one may live on, that's outstanding performance for a vehicle of its size, weight and class. Plus all that fuel efficiency goodness comes with loads of stump pulling torque, too. Sign me up now!

Since I'm hoping to keep my new Patriot for a very long time, maybe I should hold off ordering now and wait to see if the CRD powertrain will be offered here in North America in 2009?


Irish Waif ​

 

Seems it would be better than 33 mpg U.S. Sign me up. In the 80's Toyota made their small truck in a diesel. I always thought that was a good idea. Small diesel engine with better torque than gas. I imagine pollution and politics play a role having no U.S. CRD.

 

Pollution should not play a role in the decision as diesel engines a believe have less harmful emissions than petrol, don't qoute me as I may be wrong, but I am pretty sure that what I have read. The sooner you guys get them the better.

Cheers,

Tim.

 

According to the California Air Resources Board, diesel soot is classified as a carcinogen.

 

if they get the diesel we should get the offroad package ...all far in love and war

 

so you are allowed to have V8 and V10 petrol motors that get 5 mpg

and not allowed to sell a vehicle that is made on your shores but exported all over the world, that is 30-40% more fuel effiecent has better power and torque than its equivalent and produces less green house gas

all this due to politcal pressure created from a little note that happens to be green

Me thinks that Australia need a new strategy partner to move forward with thats that a load of political hogwash

If everyone writes to Chrysler wanting a diesel patriot in US they might push for it

I really want them to develop it so we can get it in Automatic or CVT gearbox

So think back 12 months ago and what you where paying for GAS and think in 12 months time what you will be paying for GAS - I know that if i was driving a vehicle that can get 40mpg and have 310nm of torque and over 100hp i'd feel more comfortable about my green footprint

think about voting at your next elections - or at least vote for common sense not what the oil companies want

 

The 5.7 liter Hemi V8 in my Dodge Ram gets 20 mpg.

 

Having said that (5.5litres per 100klms) that is Chrysler Australia's quoted figure for the highway cycle, not a combined figure of highway and town driving. I have yet to see such a figure in my car as yet, I will let it run in a little more and see how it goes. I reckon to get 5.5 you would have to be on a real flat road any you would have to reset the trip computer while on the move to get the best figure. Manufacturers have a habit of quoting the absolute best figures instead of "real world" figures.

Cheers,

Tim.

 

Have just clocked 2000 k's and the motor is improving - go 6l today trip down the mornington peninsula - the motors take about 5000k to run in and then look out- the savings will come epper:

 

Picture it: Patriot 4x4 CRD 6 speed manual (geared for offroading) with offroad package...

That's my dream second vehicle, maybe it'll happen eventually in the US!

 

I was wondering also, that the Dodge Avenger 2.4 liter uses the same motor as the Patriot, the 2.4 liter "world engine" with the same specs of 173 hp, and it comes with the 6 speed tranny. Interesting........

 

According to the Dodge site, and all I've read, only the 3.5 engine comes with the six-speed tranny. Seems that all the car companies are saving their newest trannies for their largest V-6s. For now, anyway.

 

I'm getting 35mpg on average with mixed driving and I managed 39 on a round trip using motorways.
it sounds a bit low to me

 

Less CO2 emission of course. You know, contribute with what you can to save the earth.

...and as a bonus we get free parking everywhere and a 1500 USD refund from the government.

I get 1000 USD refund for buying a diesel with a particle filter (is that the name for it in english?) if it gets registered before new years eve, but I'm not too optimistic about it.

 

CO2 is not a pollutant. Humans have been exhaling CO2 for thousands of years. Sounds like you listen to Al Gore too much.

 

Let me guess, you're from America, the number 1 polluter in the world that didn't sign the Kyoto protocol? Sounds like you listen to your president too much.

Everyone has a right to their own opinion and yes I do listen to Al Gore and all the scientists behind him. Apparently the evidence is strong enough for our government to take action.

I guess you think oil is a renewable resource that will last forever?

 

Buy a Patriot from China

Everyone has a right to their own opinion and yes I do listen to Al Gore and all the scientists behind him. Apparently the evidence is strong enough for our government to take action.

That's the same Al Gore, who has so many mistakes in his movie, that the British Gov't is restricting its showing? I'm glad you're so well informed.

While we may be the world's biggest polluters, we are also the world's biggest industrial country. If you have--or are thinking of buying a Patriot--keep that in mind.

Direct your concerns about pollution to India and China, buckoo. While you're at it, call the anti-recreationists/environmentialist-wannabees and blame them for some the wildfires polluting California.

 

don't worry gunyan - they'll just invade countries with oil and problem solved for a few years anyway

http://www.glumbert.com/media/irack

 

NIce, very nice. :doh::icon_rolleyes:
You guys got any oil <-- read as lets get ready to invade.... geesh

 

I knew about the british gov't already so you are absolutely right I'm well informed, thanks. But I'm rather safe than sorry. I've seen glaciers getting smaller and smaller with my own eyes so there is definately something going on with the climate. If it's caused by CO2 emission or not doesnt matter really. It's happening and if there is even the slightest chance of affecting it in a better way I don't see why I shouldn't so please respect my opinion and leave me alone! :wrongforum:

It's not exactly flattering to play in the same league as China, the biggest non democratic country in the world and India having serious economic problems with a third of the population below the poverty line. Your country has been a rich economy for a long time so it's about time to step it up! Maybe you could take some of that warfare money and use it to something better? Just an idea...

I'm done with this subject. All i meant to say was that if there was a flexifuel option I would have gone for that instead of the diesel. I kind of feel bad about not doing my best now but i couldn't find a car that would suit my needs. Still the diesel is a better option than the petrol though.

Peace

 

Hmmm... Do yu think anyone on this forum has the power to affect the way the US, China, India, Sweeden, or Austrailia does their political business? If you do then you are just dumb, if you don't then why post stuff like; you polluting war mongering amreicans? Its only serves to show malicious intent on your part and to pizz off people who would otherwise wouldn't care what your views are. Bottom line is that no one on here is here to save the world, they are here to enjoy friendship that is inspired by a common interest, the patriot.
ps see how I can sink to your level, kewl huh?
edit: I only got ticked because of your insults towards the US not because of your views. everyone is entitled to their own opinion but insults suck!

 

Did you ever see that huge waste of European taxpayer money in the North Sea? The EU spent millions of Euros to build this monstrosity that looks like an oil well platform but, instead, dumps CO2 under the sea. Look at the latest issue of "Automotive Engineering" magazine. Someone with some technical background actually debunked the claims about global warming and CO2.

 

I do listen to Al Gore




How do you like Al's big new mansion in Tennessee? I bet he had the environment in mind when he built that.

 

I guess you think oil is a renewable resource that will last forever?



No. We have coal, nuclear energy, natural gas, solar, wind, etc. Isn't it a pity Sweden decommissioned all of their nuclear power plants.

 

Maybe you could take some of that warfare money and use it to something better? Just an idea...




Good idea. Maybe if US taxpayers didn't have to support the UN and most European countries, we would have more money to spend on other projects. Australia also didn't sign the Kyoto Protocol.

 

The CRD model is still under contract with VW until 2010. This is when the diesel will be introduced in the US/Canada. VW is production the same engine and their TDI diesels in the US/Canada, which are the number one selling diesel car in the States. We agreed that we would not compete with them until 2010 using their engine. Unless Chrysler comes up with a diesel of their own the CRD will only be for export only.

 

its taken decades of development to get the diesel right in Europe - they are very expensive too make and develop - the japanese and koreans are spending millions on both diesel and hybrids - the merc and VW diesels are still much better on both economy, gearbox and power

Chrylser are extremely lucky to have the contracts with VW and Mercedes on the current motors - its about time the USA and canada seriously consider these and the commander and compass wouldn't need to be scrapped - they both sell well in oz and europe due the diesel options

 

Hmmm... Do yu think anyone on this forum has the power to affect the way the US, China, India, Sweeden, or Austrailia does their political business? If you do then you are just dumb, if you don't then why post stuff like; you polluting war mongering amreicans? Its only serves to show malicious intent on your part and to pizz off people who would otherwise wouldn't care what your views are. Bottom line is that no one on here is here to save the world, they are here to enjoy friendship that is inspired by a common interest, the patriot.
ps see how I can sink to your level, kewl huh?
edit: I only got ticked because of your insults towards the US not because of your views. everyone is entitled to their own opinion but insults suck!

Sorry if I insulted you personally. My mistake not to realize you guys really are... Patriots! But hey, the fact that you actually named a car after it says a lot. You might even beat France when it comes to this. I tried to cancel my french citizenship once but it didn't work out because there is no routine for that. "Why?? Everyone wants to be french!" - was the reply I got. Viva La France

Regarding Sweden exporting fire arms. (yes, I red your post before you edited it for the third time and received your insult towards Sweden). It's a big issue here and I'm not supporting it and I've never met anyone who can justify it. I guess we're not as patriotic over here that we have to defend everything our government says. Even the neutrality itself is questionable but that's another forum. Glad to see you've done your homework though, I didn't expect that. A+.

 

Yeah, I cooled down and thought better of myself and thought the insult towards Sweeden was a bit much. I hate speaking in generalities and I have no right to throw an insult at everyone cuz I was upset. I became the very thing that upset me. not kewl on my part. There are alot of things ALOT of governments do I don't like... and yes this includes my own.