I've put 5 quarts every time since I've got the Pat and it reads to the max safe mark.

 

I run 5 qts and it is usually 75-80% max on the stick

 

Same here


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5 quarts, runs right next to max when hot

 

5 quarts and right at the MAX line. Can't see any difference cold or hot.

 

4.5 as that is what it calls for.

 

From the 12MK74-126-AE-R1 5th edition
__________________________________________________

Engine Oil with Filter
2.0L and 2.4L Engine (SAE 5W-20, API Certified) 4.5 Quarts

For best performance and maximum protection for all
engines under all types of operating conditions, the
manufacturer recommends engine oils that are API Certified
and meet the requirements of Chrysler Material
Standard MS-6395.

Engine Oil Viscosity (SAE Grade)
SAE 5W-20 engine oil is recommended for all operating
temperatures. This engine oil improves low temperature
starting and vehicle fuel economy. Your engine oil filler
cap also states the recommended engine oil viscosity
grade for your engine.

Lubricants which do not have both the engine oil certification
mark and the correct SAE viscosity grade number
should not be used.
__________________________________________________

4.5 quarts of any API Certified 5W-20 oil meeting the requirements of Chrysler Material Standard MS-6395 will satisfy the warranty requirement.

 

^ good info Murman, thanks! I'm already due for its first oil change soon lol


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Take it easy, Airman. What the OM states and what I do are two different things...

 

I fill it to the line, I figure that's what the line's there for.

 

The dipstick is showing you a safe range, so anywhere within that range is good. I know some prefer to stay towards the low end of the range as this lowers internal windage and can "supposedly" give a small fuel economy boost. I personally don't buy into that unless you are really hammering on the thing and driving it so hard the the oil is going to be climbing the internal walls of the engine from G-Force.

I generally only add oil if it get's to the low marker...and it hasn't happened yet between oil changes on my 'Riot. The wife's GMC Sonoma however will eat\leak about 1 quart of additional oil between oil changes (it's got 116k miles on it so I'm fine with a little consumption/leakage).

 

4.5 here too. Changed it 16 times now (every 5k), and all she takes is 4.5. It gets to about 3/4 on the fill stick.

 

Change the oil? You're supposed to "change" it. Crap - I just add 4.5 every 3000 miles. No wonder it leaks out the top.

 

What I don't understand is that 5W20 oil is for North American Patriots but 5W30 oil is OK for a Patriot with the same engine exported over seas ??

 

Mainly due to CAFE standards the car mfg's must meet. Every little bit helps. 5W20 allows them to squeak out a hair more MPG which helps their overall fleet average.

Again, I am not saying 30 weight wiill harm anything. Just clarifying warranty requirements where 5W20 is the only weight that meets the requirements.

 

I search the word "Required" in a 2011 PDF OM. I did not find the word "Required" associated with motor oil weight.

 

I seriously doubt Chrysler would have put that in writing. Not on an official Chrysler letterhead from someone who truly has the authority to state that. Some general CS e-mail from someone without a clue answering a question may have stated to do that if you couldn't find 5W20. That certainly isn't an allowance to use 5W30 all the time however. Who the heck can't find 5W20 in the US? I call bull on anyone who says they have no access to 5W20. But to say it is perfectly fine with Chrysler as the go to weight when all they spec for the vehicle, HERE( only place it matters ), is 5W20 flies against everything I have ever seen working in the auto field.

Regardless if that is the case or not. Just a bit of advice from someone who has worked many years in the auto world including dealer service. That is use something other than what the owner's manual allows for, and have an internal engine problem, and your maintenance history WILL come into play. Part of that investigation will be to see if you used the called for weight/rated oil and if it was changed on time or not. If you didn't, and you took off on your own and changed weights and increased the allowed for OCI, you WILL run into warrantry hassle getting the repair covered.

You all do what you wish. You are the vehicle owner and ultimately responsible for the repairs.

 

Houston, Tx
2012 Jeep Patriot

Houston, Tx
2006-2013 GM LS2 and larger


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...........
Back on track.

Nobody recalls what the level on the dipstick was when it had it's factory fill?

 

Yeah. I recall. It was on full. All the way to the top line. Who knows if that was 4.5 or 5 though. But like he said, as long as its in between ur good.


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So long as it's between the two marks when hot, it's "safe"!

 

I just changed the oil and filter on mine last week, put in the whole 5 quart jug of Pennzoil Ultra (giving it a shot after using Mobil 1 EP since new) and the level was exactly halfway between the SAFE marks . Today I drove 20 miles and then checked it 5 minutes after shutdown and the level was right at the MAX mark.

 

I'm a 5 qt guy

Well, changed my oil the other day. I put a full 5 quarts in with a new MOPAR oil filter.

With a cold engine (morning before work) it is about 75% full in the safe zone.

Coming Home from work (oil nice and hot, parked same exact spot on my flat driveway, after about 5 min) it is exactly at the top line.

So, ipso facto.....I'm gonna say the manual is incorrect, and the factory only put in 4.5 quarts.

From now on....the whole 5 qt jug is goin in.

Thanks all.....

 

My 2.0 liter 4.5 quarts is over the fill line hot